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« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2006, 06:56:04 AM »
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Engrish.

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You rike chity chrimp?

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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2006, 07:06:35 AM »
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There's a very good book out there by Coontz.  It's about a near nuclear war between Russia and Japan.  

Anyway, technology advanced to such a point that it became much like WW2 dogfighting.  If you turned on your radar, you were dead.  If you turned on jamming, you were dead.  If you tried to use a missile, you were dead.

Basically, the japanese had a long range decent fighter that had great stand off power.  But this meant nothing because any use of technology would result in the death of the pilot.

The Russian's "Leased" a squadron of american pilots and planes.  The planes were F22's with skin that changed color.  They basically became invisible.

So here you have invisible planes fighting fast invisible planes.  Pretty much comes down to tactics and speed again.


Wow.

I hope it will be translated and printed here. I love to read Western fiction about Russia, always find something new about my country.

"Duchess Grishka was drinking vodka from samovar under a shady cranberry".

So far my favourites are Clancy's "Red Storm Rising" and Turtledove's "Worldwar" series.

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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2006, 07:14:45 AM »
I dont think Russia is much different than America really. Very different socially and politically, but the very base of the two nations is very similar.

Manifest Destiny is pretty much the goal of all developed nations.

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« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2006, 08:00:33 AM »
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I dont think Russia is much different than America really. Very different socially and politically, but the very base of the two nations is very similar.

Manifest Destiny is pretty much the goal of all developed nations.


Well, I dare to say I see some differences ;) Protestant ethics is absolutely alien to Russian people.

Looked into Wikipedia, searched for "Manifest Destiny", got intriguing result.

"Manifest Destiny is a phrase that expressed the belief that the United States had a divinely inspired mission to expand, spreading its form of democracy and freedom."

Well, it's almost opposite to Russian tradition. During the expansion of XVI-XIX centuries Russians always kept original local forms of government and didn't interfere into details, affiliating local governments and elites and letting them participate in all forms of activities of the Empire, thus giving them another dimension of opportunities. In Soviet times this tradition was kept, in fact in Central Asia and other national autonomies local lords kept the power, only called "Party leaders". Same policy can be easily seen now in Russian Federation. We don't force "our form of freedom".

More to say, I find this "MD" stuff dangerous. :( I don't want any "democracy" or "freedom" forced here. We have our own way, and so do other nations.

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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2006, 08:04:26 AM »
What I mean to say is, you want to spread your influence and become powerful. You don't have to do it our way, but it's in all nations interests to do the same. It's mans base nature. It's why we chase women. It's why we explore. It's why we go to space.

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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2006, 08:24:59 AM »
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What I mean to say is, you want to spread your influence and become powerful. You don't have to do it our way, but it's in all nations interests to do the same. It's mans base nature. It's why we chase women. It's why we explore. It's why we go to space.


In this way we are probably closest nations in the world.

What I meant about "shady cranberry" is that Western writers don't understand anything about how things are here. Like some Soviet writer making a book about Americans where he describes how they hang black people for fun every Friday, 90% of the characters are unemployed or homeless, and all the bad guys are bloody capitalist exploitators (frankly speaking I don't know if such books exist, I just collected propaganda nonsence).