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Offline Toad

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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2001, 08:32:00 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2001, 08:56:00 AM »
 
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And, concurring with what straffo say, If you want to see a wonderful example of misrespect and plain ignorance (and lack of interest to solve it), you can grab a ticket and take a look at the average "Historic" Hollywood product. Not to talk about any move which action is located in any latin country. Can you spell undocumented topics?. Maybe if we non-americans didn't learn to laugh at ourselves we could even get angry. Just like you (Image removed from quote.)

I've been to 8 Latin American countries.  I've never used Hollywood to judge them.  The strange thing is, while most foreigners deplore the way Hollywood represents their country, they use it to judge America like its some kind of absolute truth.  Ironic to say the least.

Hollywood is full of misrepresentation and the media is nothing but sensationalism.  That applies to every country everywhere around the world.

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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2001, 09:30:00 AM »
Deja,

My point was not about judging a country, or pointing out who ridiculous use to be your cinema's representation of foreign countries, but being able to laugh at what others think about one's. I find Spatula post quite funny, bearing in mind that is a non-offensive, joke post. It makes me sad when somebody reacts with angry to these kind of things. Of course you are entitled to respond if you feel somehow insulted, but I think (IMHO) you just overreacted here.

Cheers,   (the always usefull smiley)

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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2001, 09:40:00 AM »
I didn't intend any anger in my posts.  No insults were hurled.. in jest or otherwise.

I just grow tired of these types of jokes.. thus the sigh.

Yes they are funny... to a point.  Yes they can be over-used.  I guess the point I'm getting at is that I have to maintain a "sense of humor" whenever anyone talks about America on this board.

It just gets old.

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2001, 05:49:00 PM »
Jez, it was a *joke* - you know, haha...
Jokes almost invariably poke fun at someone, thats why people find them funny.

And as to the comment that we NZ's were only too happy to see the Americans in WW2 i find that insulting. We didnt sit on on our tulips waiting for the great americans to save our puny asses. That comment insults me, all those valiant kiwis and Aussies that gave their lives against all but overwhelming odds. Sure, i cant argue that the americans didnt help, but the americans had to stop the japanese to protect *their* interests in the pacific, not a completly altruistic motive.
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2001, 05:52:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:


I guess its just disappointing how many people really want to jump in and stir the pot.  Your post was not apreciated Spatula.

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I wasnt trying to offend you, but if your offended i apologise.


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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2001, 05:53:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Suave1:
Spatula must be an American

hehe, nup.

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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2001, 07:35:00 PM »
I tell you what I'M getting sick of around ALL BB's lately, is an extreme lack of the ability to laugh at oneself.

While predictable, I found Spatula's post entertaining.  

If you really get your nose bent out of shape reading toejam like that, they sell copies of "The Reader's Digest" at almost any grocery store.  You'll really like "Life In These United States" and "Humor In Uniform."  

The day I think some Kiwi would be afraid to poke fun at me, my country, and my way of life, is the day I'll just lock myself in my house, turn off the power, and learn to play the flute.

Ease up everybody.  This is high-dollar comedy, and remember, COMEDY IS NOT PRETTY!

I think it was hilarious.  I like to laugh at myself.  I'm not omnipotent, and neither is anybody else in this world.  

Jesus DejaVu, are you really serious?  I was having fun in the bombsaway forum with an Australian, and some idiot from over here actually APOLOGIZED for me!  It was like, "Please pardon this American Moron, we're not really all like this.  <sigh>, such children!"

Oh Gawd, please.

Oh, and spatula, you don't throw beer cans out the window on the way home from a road-hunting trip.

You use bottles, and you chuck them at signs and mailboxes.  Also anyone riding a funny-looking bicycle wearing spandex.  And anyone who looks like their underwear is a couple sizes too small...

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2001, 07:52:00 PM »
Honestly, guys, grow a little skin.
Heck, that's an amusing tale.

A year and a half ago I had the opportunity to travel with a bunch of Cypriots to Syria.  We spent a day in Lebanon to see the massive ruins of ancient Heliopolis (now Baalbeck) -- out between the Lebanon and the Translebanon. To get there you have to drive past massive signs showing the Israelis to be America's baby-butchering toadies.  We also got to see some fine-quality S. African-made artillery batteries, Zsu-23 positions, mechanized infantry locations, and every variety of Soviet-built tank made in the last 50 years.  Some of these camps had Lebanese flags; others Syrian ones; others still those of the Hezbollah.
So we get to Baalbeck, check it out.  Afterwards, I go into a store, and buy a coke for a single US dollar bill.  The person selling it to me does so in English, then adds at the end an insult in Arabic.

I smile and think to myself "Scoreboard"

(trans. for non-amurricans: that's shorthand for "Let us animadvert to the status of our respective countries in the current geopolitical situation.")

In short: right now, if you're a white american adult male, you have no reason to get pissed off about international insults.  Whether you like it or not, you rule the world.  It's only the little dogs who lift their hind legs high to piss.

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2001, 07:54:00 PM »
 
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Jesus DejaVu, are you really serious? I was having fun in the bombsaway forum with an Australian, and some idiot from over here actually APOLOGIZED for me! It was like, "Please pardon this American Moron, we're not really all like this. <sigh>, such children!"

Hmmm.. seems like you may have a problem understanding that not everybody finds the same thing funny.  In this case, I did not find this funny.

No need to come here and apologize for ME.  ...oh wait.. that only sucks when someone thinks they have to do it for you.

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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2001, 08:02:00 PM »
 
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In short: right now, if you're a white american adult male, you have no reason to get pissed off about international insults. Whether you like it or not, you rule the world. It's only the little dogs who lift their hind legs high to piss.

Dinger,

Are you serious?  I don't even know how to respond to this.

Maybe its because I don't view the rest of tthe world as little dogs.

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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2001, 09:30:00 PM »
Yes, I am serious, and no, I don't view the rest of the world as little dogs.  The point is, a good deal of hostility towards folks from the US is a result of the fact that, in many senses of the expression, we run the world.  If you recognize this, you can take a lot of the stuff thrown at you in stride.  Yes we're nuts, but what makes it scary is that we're the richest and most powerful nuts out there.  Everyone's gunning for americans, so we catch a lot of toejam.  Big deal -- that's part of running the world.  There's no reason to be insecure when you're the most powerful out there (to make you feel otherwise is the object of so-called terrrorism).

Of course, it is my duty to inform you that US policy is ethically obscene, but that's not for any of us to determine.  AFter all, we aren't free to establish our own foreign policy.

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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2001, 09:55:00 PM »
A mad dictator takes over most of the world. Some cowardly nations ally with him, some cowardly nations fight him and lose, Some cowardly nations stay neutral and help support his war effort.
You are safly on the otherside of a huge ocean with food, resources and land abundant. The non cowerdly nations get stomped.
Do you
A) Build a big enough fleet, Airforce and army to defend yourself and maybe protect your hemisphere. And let those other guys lamet their own stupit lack of forsight or planning.
B) Strike up a bargain with the bad guy..
C) Poor your blood and treasure into freeing the world of this mad man, then ensure a lasting peace by being magnaminous in victory.


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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2001, 10:09:00 PM »
Wow, we run the world?
I thought China did, everything I buy lately seems to be from there.

Spatula, ya left somethin' out of number nine.

Not only would I sue her bellybutton into next year, I would also sue the manufacturer of the offending piece of furniture and the store that sold it to her.

I never liked that damned dressing table and it was WAY overpriced.

Fatty, still waiting to see if you still got the bunny pelt or didja eat this one too?



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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2001, 11:14:00 PM »
Spat,

So they weren't happy to see us?  

I made no comment, positive or negative, on the NZ or Australian war effort.

None.

You are reading something into that from your own personal bias.

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