perk planes....LA-7 SPIT16

[Saxman]

Ki-84 should be perked LONG before the Spit 16. Only problem I have against 16s is that no matter what my e state and position (above, behind, below, 3 oclock, 9 oclock whatever) they ALWAYS seem to be forcing me to HO (grrrrr!).

[Iceman24]

get em both slow and pretty much any ally plane with flaps can out maneuver them both

[Saxman]

Conversation from the main country channel last night:

Part of the complaints of the Spit XVI may have nothing to do with its real life performance, but of its ACES HIGH capability. A lot of guys I was talking to think that some of the 16's performance may be punked.

I've seen 16s do some seriously fubar things. I've been in 450-500mph dives, when a Spit 16 latched onto my tail, FROM LEVEL FLIGHT, and immediately began closing distance on me. Top level speed in a 16 is what, ~360-380mph at the atlitudes most fights take place in the MA? And yet these guys are closing distance entering a diving tailchase from level flight within only 2-3000ft, against a target that ALREADY had a serious head of steam (and when I need to jet, I go down full power/WEP)? Other guys in the MA have seen the exact same thing happen against aircraft that are supposed to be among the best divers (P-47s, F4Us, Doras, etc), so I KNOW it's not me (well, diving may not be a good example as it's been frequently reported the whole dive model is porked, but there were other examples of 16s doing things that they really shouldn't).

So there MAY be something to the complaints over the 16, but the best approach would be to fix the flightmodel, THEN see if it should still be perked.

[ujustdied]

ya but im just sick of upping and seeing 25 la7s, way over used. would b nice to c a person fly a real plane for a change. as for spit 16s they aint hard to kil at all. u can simple dodge a HO. but all LA7s do is run when nothing goes way just alot boring seeing them.

CATFISH6

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Saxman
Ki-84 should be perked LONG before the Spit 16. Only problem I have against 16s is that no matter what my e state and position (above, behind, below, 3 oclock, 9 oclock whatever) they ALWAYS seem to be forcing me to HO (grrrrr!).

Well, the Ki-84 has some notable weaknesses. Among these are the inability to follow most aircraft in a dive without risking the loss of control surfaces. It also displays wicked stall behavior under loads of three Gs and above. It suffers from stiffening elevators above 350 mph, requiring a lot of up-elevator trim, which in turn requires constant adjustment or physically carrying down elevator most of the time. I don't think it requires perking and its relatively light usage backs that up.

My regards,

Widewing

[Saxman]

Oh, I agree that most everything, especially the American iron, SHOULD run from a Ki in a dive. However I disagree with you on whether it actually HAPPENS.

I'd have to say the only Spitfire I like is the one that's hung himself nicely on his prop while zooming up on a target (those wings sure do pop off easy). That and the friendly one shaking off the other Spit that's latched on to my six.

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Saxman
I'd have to say the only Spitfire I like is the one that's hung himself nicely on his prop while zooming up on a target (those wings sure do pop off easy). That and the friendly one shaking off the other Spit that's latched on to my six.

P38 is probably the best fight for the KI84. Both are known UFOs in the game and have simular performance in a lot of catagories. Makes for a good fight.

[ZENMS]

Is there a list of the planes and what their perk value is? Outside the game, maybe on the website or readme file? Cant get my game to run so if it is in the hangar or something I cant see it lol! Just wondering.....