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Offline Big G

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« on: January 29, 2006, 01:05:47 AM »
During all my time in the Military, I was always asked the same question.
Usually by wannabes in the bar or chicks I was trying to f###.
"Have you ever killed anyone ?"
And the honest answer was that we fired as a section so I don't know.
The only time I ever fired as an individual was in Iraq in 91, (And Northern  Ireland in 89) the Engineers were supposed to have filled a trench in, but they hadn't done the job right as they poured out like ants behind us when we went over.
They (Engineers) had bulldozed the trenches over and as we went over them, the leftovers came out, looking for someone to blame.
So my question to all and sundry is this:
"Where do the rules start and stop ?"
I'm just being nosey here guys.

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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2006, 02:45:49 AM »
Usualy with a double post. :)
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Offline cpxxx

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2006, 06:56:25 AM »
While I can't answer the question. Curiously enough my sister in law is a lawyer and lecturer and actually specialises in that very subject. Rules of armed conflict in general  with a particular interest in how it applies to insurgency.

If you have a specific question I could ask. No guarantee you would get an answer you'd like.
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2006, 12:53:12 PM »
It's called the "Law of Armed Conflict"
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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2006, 01:06:18 PM »
He who departs from the established "rules of war" is the most likely to win.
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Offline lasersailor184

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2006, 01:34:23 PM »
Except for fact that everyone who ignored the rules of war has lost...
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Offline Delirium

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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2006, 02:04:10 PM »
Really? Revolutionary War in the US was won because of using practices which were not accepted.

Vietnam? Both the French and the US.

Soviet Union in WWII?

There are countless examples which kill that theory, Lasersailor.
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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2006, 02:29:44 PM »
^^ Yup.

Further, summary execution of wounded and surviving; stunned senseless Japanese soldiers was routine in the Pacific. More than a few american units had similar polices in Europe during WWII. Only thing that could save a wounded enemy soldier from a 'finish' bullet from a passing GI clear though vietnam was a clearly visable 'white flag' formal surrender by a group of enemy soldiers; and even that was no guarantee that all (or any) of the surrendered soldiers would survive the trip to the rear.

War on paper is sanitary, cut and dried; black and white. War in reality is something several orders of magnitude off from the 'paper' version.

Rule of thumb for War.. It's Kill or Be Killed... best you do the killin before the other side gets his chance. The only enemy you can be sure can't kill you later is one thats very, very dead right *bang* NOW.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2006, 02:58:36 PM »
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Rule of thumb for War.. It's Kill or Be Killed... best you do the killin before the other side gets his chance. The only enemy you can be sure can't kill you later is one thats very, very dead right *bang* NOW.


I would say that the rule of thumb for war is "the winner takes it all!" It doesn't matter how you won. If you won  you are the person who establish the rules.

If German won the WW2 a lot of English and American pilots would been faced charges for war crimes. You know, bombing Dresden and Hiroshima were a little bit over....
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Offline Excel1

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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2006, 01:54:31 AM »
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If German won the WW2 a lot of English and American pilots would been faced charges for war crimes. You know, bombing Dresden and Hiroshima were a little bit over....


You make it sound as though the Allies and Axis forces were morally equivalent. It's not only laughable, it's sick.

If Germany had of won the war how many more millions/ tens of millions of people would have died at the hands of that mental midget and his servile thugs? Allied pilots facing trumped-up war crimes charges would be the least of the world's problems.
 
There's no crime in putting down rabid dogs. It had too be done.

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Offline Vulcan

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2006, 03:59:58 AM »
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If German won the WW2 a lot of English and American pilots would been faced charges for war crimes. You know, bombing Dresden and Hiroshima were a little bit over....


Ahhh the sound of someone tainted by the rhetoric of left-wing-tree-hugging-whale-saving-man-hating-vegan-lesbians.
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Offline Delirium

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2006, 04:14:13 AM »
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You make it sound as though the Allies and Axis forces were morally equivalent.


In some cases, they were... or you have you forgotten the Russians?
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Offline Excel1

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2006, 05:08:42 AM »
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In some cases, they were... or you have you forgotten the Russians?


No I didn't forget the Russians

Stalin wouldn't have won any humanitarian awards but imo he was a sodding
angel compared to Hitler.

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Offline Pooh21

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2006, 05:56:45 AM »
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If German won the WW2 a lot of English and American pilots would been faced charges for war crimes. You know, bombing Dresden and Hiroshima were a little bit over....


one thing though the axis woulda skipped the kangaroo court war crimes trial business, and woulda got right to the point. While that is a bad thing, isnt Milosivec still on trial? there needs to be a happy medium between the two.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2006, 06:12:01 AM »
adapt or die :cool:
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