Author Topic: Chi... (Read 1431 times)

Dadano · « **on:** January 29, 2006, 04:29:49 PM »

I have the "rubber bullets" film if ya want to see it pls email me at maxsail@gmail.com

Dano

(anyone else interested in this phe·nom·e·non; feel free to email:)

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2006, 06:53:39 PM »

I'd like to see the film too. I don't believe in "rubber bullets".

You know my email

I'd like to finally see this phenomenon

Krusty · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2006, 06:58:44 PM »

They exist. While in a 109 with a 30mm hub, firing only the hub I landed 5-7 hit sprites in rapid succession on the fuselage of a lancaster from the 7-8 o'clock angle, didn't do squat to the guy. Yesterday I unloaded almost all the ammo in a Fw190 (with outboard MG/FF) into a flight of Ju88s and he was barely taking any damage after 5 attacks with many many hits.

jaxxo · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2006, 08:37:21 PM »

same prob with 109..maybe lag induced as u fire at d200 normally..with a buff set though is strange..

Howitzer · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2006, 09:40:08 PM »

I agree they do exist... The only problem is that Chi will not respond to you because he is persona non grata =)

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2006, 02:04:54 AM »

Krusty, I see your comments as another cry of wolf.

I still haven't seen any films of rubber bullets. I hit many people with 20mm bullets at close range and have seen nothing come off, but then I'll him them again with 1 bullet and then the tail will fall off. Maybe I didn't do enough damage in one specific area and that last 1 bullet was I the straw that broke the camels back.

People really need to film these things. And not just films of hit sprites with nothing coming off but something that proves, no damage was accumulating to the other guy.

I say, stop crying, it's just a game to some of you.

Stang · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2006, 02:19:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
They exist. While in a 109 with a 30mm hub, firing only the hub I landed 5-7 hit sprites in rapid succession on the fuselage of a lancaster from the 7-8 o'clock angle, didn't do squat to the guy. Yesterday I unloaded almost all the ammo in a Fw190 (with outboard MG/FF) into a flight of Ju88s and he was barely taking any damage after 5 attacks with many many hits.

Sounds like your aim is the problem. You were probably scattering hits all over, not concentrating them on any part.

gatt · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2006, 02:38:04 AM »

I have something like the so called rubber bullet everytime I have a bad connx with packets loss.
It happens that my K-4 and his 30mm seems to have no effect on bombers, no matter how many hits, and someone else nearby gets the kill, even if he hasnt shot a single bullet (confirmed by fellow Knights).

bagrat · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2006, 01:32:35 AM »

I know the reason for rubber bullets, it is very simple actually.

You see when you fire a 30mm round at a plane, just by the speed of the round and enemy pilots pure will to not die, this creates a small pocket in the "space time continueum" allowing you to see the bullet hit but in FACT it is actually somewhere else in the distant universe in a different time period (yes... the bullet did travel back in time) and what you are seeing is
the light which is ricocheting off what in ur point in time would be a giant chinchila being fired into an aircraft.

see its simple (Y= M^13ZX-*(chinchila/.317)) <---formula for rubber bullets

Mugzeee · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2006, 10:03:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Krusty, I see your comments as another cry of wolf.

I still haven't seen any films of rubber bullets. I hit many people with 20mm bullets at close range and have seen nothing come off, but then I'll him them again with 1 bullet and then the tail will fall off. Maybe I didn't do enough damage in one specific area and that last 1 bullet was I the straw that broke the camels back.

People really need to film these things. And not just films of hit sprites with nothing coming off but something that proves, no damage was accumulating to the other guy.

I say, stop crying, it's just a game to some of you.

Your request is an impossible one. Not because rubber bullets dont exist. But because the film proves nothing. And it also depends on what is meant by "rubber Bullets" As far as im concerned. When a players has played long enought to know what it takes to bring down another plane on average....and he/she speds 3, 4 or even 5 times that much ammo with hits being seen (sprits) and the plane doesnt come down, Call it what you will....but its still wrong and is likely causes by the servers integrity at that moment. imo of course

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2006, 12:45:50 PM »

so rubber bullets are impossible to prove huh?

hmmm

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2006, 01:15:07 PM »

Kermit you should search the forums for threads on "rubber bullets". You'll see in a few of the threads HiTech or Skuzzy posting tips to minimize the effects of Rubber Bullets such as enabling Vsync and disabling FSAA/AA.

Just because you don't suffer from the problem doesn't mean no one suffers from the problem.

ack-ack

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2006, 01:26:50 PM »

What I'm trying to say is that people are most likely confusing the idea of rubber bullets with hitting the guy over a wide area on the plane.

I hit many people at 200 or less with 20mm and have seen no parts come off. That doesn't mean no damage occurred though. It's just that not enough damage occurred in the same spot to cause a part to be damaged.

Or, they are just barely missing their target.

I really want to see a film of these "rubber bullets" so that I may believe.

dedalos · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2006, 01:58:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
What I'm trying to say is that people are most likely confusing the idea of rubber bullets with hitting the guy over a wide area on the plane.

I hit many people at 200 or less with 20mm and have seen no parts come off. That doesn't mean no damage occurred though. It's just that not enough damage occurred in the same spot to cause a part to be damaged.

Or, they are just barely missing their target.

I really want to see a film of these "rubber bullets" so that I may believe.

I may still have a film from about 6 months ago where I emptied a full clip from a Spit on the guy overshooting me in the DA. Convergence was set to 200 and the bad guy was at 200. Before I had time to type WTF on range, bad guy writes "why arent you dead?"

I asked him to come around and he emtied his clip on me. Nothing. We upped again and tried it repeatedly.

It turned out that the DA was porked and Scuzzy or HT had it fixed. I am saing, that it can happen. I bet you the people experiencing this, are experiencing it in the same couple of maps and prolly in a furball near a CV.

I tell you what I have for sure. A film of me chasing a spit missing both wings with several of us shooting at him with no effect.

Strange things do happen in this game sometimes.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2006, 07:31:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
What I'm trying to say is that people are most likely confusing the idea of rubber bullets with hitting the guy over a wide area on the plane.

I hit many people at 200 or less with 20mm and have seen no parts come off. That doesn't mean no damage occurred though. It's just that not enough damage occurred in the same spot to cause a part to be damaged.

Or, they are just barely missing their target.

I really want to see a film of these "rubber bullets" so that I may believe.

I aim for the wing. BTW, "rubber bullets" exist.

Karaya