Author Topic: Perfectly legal .22 Gatling gun (Read 654 times)

StarOfAfrica2 · « **on:** January 29, 2006, 10:09:48 PM »

Is your home REALLY your castle? Need the firepower to defend it against large numbers of invaders, but cant get one of those machine guns due to pesky BATF interference? Wait no longer friends. All you need is 2 Ruger 10/22 rifles and this kit from Cabela's Outfitters.

Go to http://www.cabelas.com and in the search box to the left type this code.

xt-22-7757

I cant link to the page directly.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2006, 10:32:12 PM »

there's another variant that has 6 revolving barrels. a guy I used to work with had a Federal dealers license and sold them for about $1200, fully assembled and ready to go.

either model would be fun.

now all you need to do is replace the hand-crank with a sewing machine motor, add a closed circuit camera sight, a few aiming servos, and a roof mount for your house/car/boat.

dynamt · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2006, 11:02:56 PM »

R.O.F. is 4 shots per crank turn. I'll bet you can crank that thing pretty fast.
What a hoot.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2006, 12:39:20 AM »

Interpreted to the letter of the law, fully automatic means it fires continually so long as the trigger is depressed (as in blowback, delayed blow back, or gas operated type actions). I always found that interesting. There is nothing in the law about the caliber that I've seen. A 22 rimfire that is true full auto is as illegal to own without a license as a 9mm or a 50BMG.

One other thing I noticed, and found VERY interesting. A BAR cannot be transferred to an individual, according to the regulations I've seen. I've seen several for sale, and they are all listed as "no transfers to individuals, regardless of license". Guess the BATFE finds the old BAR truly frightening.

Hangtime · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2006, 12:42:00 AM »

anything that can penetrate feinsteins limo makes it on the banned list.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2006, 01:17:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
anything that can penetrate feinsteins limo makes it on the banned list.

Wonder why that is? I can't think of a thing that would have any desire to penetrate her.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2006, 01:27:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Interpreted to the letter of the law, fully automatic means it fires continually so long as the trigger is depressed (as in blowback, delayed blow back, or gas operated type actions). I always found that interesting. There is nothing in the law about the caliber that I've seen. A 22 rimfire that is true full auto is as illegal to own without a license as a 9mm or a 50BMG.

This isnt a true full auto. Its a crank. Its considered semi-auto.

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there's another variant that has 6 revolving barrels. a guy I used to work with had a Federal dealers license and sold them for about $1200, fully assembled and ready to go.

You can buy an actual Gatling Gun. They make a copy of the original that uses little black powder "kegs" that hold powder and a ball, with a nipple on the back for a percussion cap. You load and cap them, feed the little kegs into a tube, and insert into the gun and crank away. The other model is a centerfire cartridge in most popular pistol calibers.

This is neither. Its a double barrel, twin magazine setup that uses a crank to fire both barrels. Its made out of the guts of two semi-auto rifles. Calling it a Gatling gun is a misnomer, but it was intended to conjure visions of cranking a handle and firing off rounds (which this does). Buying a real copy of a Gatling gun requires a license. This doesnt. Anyone can buy one, because the KIT is what makes it fun. The kit does not convert anything to full auto, therefore its not illegal.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2006, 09:37:03 AM »

I knew it wasn't a true full auto, I gave a basic but clear definition of true full auto according to the BATFE. That was the point.

lazs2 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2006, 02:36:04 PM »

The problem with electrically operated cranks is that.... They can be considered to be "full auto" in that the "trigger" would not be the firearms original trigger but the button used to start the electric motor..

If they get wind of it... the ATF could go berserk and go all Waco on you.

lazs

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2006, 02:57:01 PM »

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nipple

Anyway...

There are two triggers on that thing. 2 guns, each of which is semi-auto. It's the crank that that pulls the triggers.

texace · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2006, 03:10:47 PM »

I've seen one in my store from time to time. Neat little device, really. Never seen one sold but I bet we've sold them once or twice.

LePaul · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2006, 03:47:10 PM »

Oh wow, add a 12 volt motor to replace the crank and you're in business to really mess up some squirrel's day

eskimo2 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2006, 05:49:14 PM »

I had a crank for my 10-22. It worked but the problem was holding the gun steady with the left hand while cranking with the right. It was harder to crank and aim than I would have guessed; it also took more force than I would have guessed. I also vaguely recall needing to make adjustments and an upper limit on crank speed versus jamming.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2006, 10:32:33 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
I had a crank for my 10-22. It worked but the problem was holding the gun steady with the left hand while cranking with the right. It was harder to crank and aim than I would have guessed; it also took more force than I would have guessed. I also vaguely recall needing to make adjustments and an upper limit on crank speed versus jamming.

they used to sell one that clamped onto your trigger guard (similar to a trigger lock) with another trigger that extended below. it had a gear and a cam in it, the trigger had a fairly long pull and would give you 5 or 6 rounds per pull. you could get fairly good at controlling how many rounds by pulling part way.

you could also buy a device for the mini-14 that attached in the same way and the second trigger would fire a round and release a pendulum with a counter weight. as long as you held the trigger down the recoil would keep it swinging into your trigger. the down side is that if you pulled it tight enough into your shoulder for good aiming it would stall out the pendulum.

not sure if either of these are still legal though.

indy007 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2006, 08:01:11 AM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
Oh wow, add a 12 volt motor to replace the crank and you're in business to really mess up some squirrel's day

A cheap cordless drill would get the job done. It'd even give variable speed control.