Author Topic: Well I guess Rev Jackson isn't so perfect after all (Read 1042 times)

Gman · « **on:** January 18, 2001, 09:28:00 PM »

http://www.msnbc.com/msn/517986.asp

LOL!

I think every single person that has ever been on CNN has a skeleton in the closet someplace. Now it's Captain Righteous' turn.

TheWobble · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2001, 09:42:00 PM »

hehe I was going to post on that but ya beat me, but dont worry remember jesse jackson's opinions are "the opinions and feeling of a black people who are too represed to speak out" so all black people do that stuff

"Civil rights activist to take hiatus from public life"

looks like he didnt take any hiatus for his PUBIC life.

I cant wait till chris rock and leno get ahold of this one

Gunthr · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2001, 07:48:00 AM »

I'm under the impression that there is a wide-spread belief in the black community that the CIA (allegedly via Bush senior's "connections")orchestrated Jackson's exposure to take him out of the line-up in the opposition to Ashcroft. I'm basing this on a sampling of local radio talk shows. Also, I personally know a well-respected, highly-educated black school teacher (a fine lady) who believes this.

That is disturbing. It shows what an uphill struggle Bush will have with black America.

:/
Gunthr

Ripsnort · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2001, 08:15:00 AM »

Gunthr, shows you how far media bias (both left and right) can go in warping someones vision of reality.

Eagler · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2001, 08:23:00 AM »

Just the libs playing the race card again. One day the average African American will have the insight, pride and common sense to see thru the current smoke and mirrors. Presently, the democrats make it to easy and comfortable for them not to play the victim. We're just a bunch of mean ole white people

Eagler

Dowding · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2001, 12:10:00 PM »

Eagler, I don't really know too much about this Jackson person, but I can't agree with the statement that discrimination and racism (it exists everywhere) is simply an illusion dreamt up by a vocal Negro minority. It smacks of glossing over the problem and perhaps even ignoring it.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2001, 12:16:00 PM »

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I'm under the impression that there is a wide-spread belief in the black community that the CIA (allegedly via Bush senior's "connections")orchestrated Jackson's exposure to take him out of the line-up in the opposition to Ashcroft.

Seems that would be more of an FBI operation. I still have to call BS on it though. If the CIA or FBI wanted to lend credence to the accusations, they would have gone to someone other than the National Enquirer. Afterall, Jesse only went public after finding out NE was going to run an exclusive on him.

So.. if you want to believe it was a CIA plot.. how about this. The CIA plants information uncovering the affair with several established news agencies. All of them refuse to run the story (why?). Eventually, the CIA must resort to using the National Enquirer to spread the information.

The story can get even sillier. Of course, most conspiracy theories can. And it was sheer coincidence that news of Bush's DUI came out a scant two days before the election.

AKDejaVu

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2001, 12:23:00 PM »

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Eagler, I don't really know too much about this Jackson person, but I can't agree with the statement that discrimination and racism (it exists everywhere) is simply an illusion dreamt up by a vocal Negro minority. It smacks of glossing over the problem and perhaps even ignoring it.

Thus the great paradox. How can a black man ever be given a fair assesment if the worry over his skin color exists.

So.. two things that need to be avoided:[list=1]

claiming that race wasn't an issue
claiming that it wouldn't be made an issue even if it wasn't[/list=a]

Both points are basic human nature.

AKDejaVu

CptTrips · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2001, 12:46:00 PM »

Well, where do I start.

First of all ,DJ is correct in that it would be the job of the FBI not the CIA to destroy Jackson as he is a domestic enemy not foreign. The agencies are pretty territorial about that sort of thing.

Second: if he wasn’t dirty, they wouldn’t have been able to get him. If he was dirty, he shouldn’t talk so high and mighty. I don’t think anyone challenges the truth of the story.

Third: I disagree with DJ, the NE would be the PERFECT cover for the operation. It would be the venue I would choose if it were my op. For the very reason that everyone seems to discount FBI involvement BECAUSE it’s the NE. The original source doesn’t really matter. Just get the info out there and sooner or later the mainstream media will take over the story. Then its legit. And people seldom remember that it all started in the check-out counter rags. Didn’t the same thing happen with the Monica story? Started out in the rags and then went mainstream. The “system” has a way of neutralizing its domestic enemies. Sometimes its more dramatic, like JFK, King, Robert Kennedy jr. Now days the assassinations are more subtle. Character assassinations: Clinton, Hart, Jackson, OJ. The “System” must do what it needs to do to protect its interests. All other considerations are secondary.

Finally, now that I’ve told you this, I have to kill you.

Regards,
Wab

Ripsnort · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2001, 12:51:00 PM »

Wab...but..but..I met you, at the con, you would *still* kill me? Okay, use my gun then..

TheWobble · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2001, 02:25:00 PM »

I dont see why anyone would set out to destroy JJ, I doubt anyone could do a better job at it than he is. The man is by far he most racist public speaker since adolf hitler, the only reason he gets away with spewing his garbage is because he has that "speaking for the black people" angle which is total roadkill. If he were white he would be regarded worse than the grand wizard of the KKK.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2001, 03:10:00 PM »

Ripsnort,

Wabbit only has to kill you if you aren't on "The List". I don't have "The List" handy right now (its locked in a vault in Oklahoma), but I'll have someone check it to see if your name is there.

AKDejaVu

Dowding · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2001, 03:47:00 PM »

Wobble - The day I take seriously anything you have to say on the issue of race, is the day I open the Sheffield office of the KKK.

DejaVu - I think race relations is perhaps the most difficult subject facing the developed world today. The main problem is one of subjectivity - something that was racially abusive to one person, might be quite the opposite to another.

Unless you've truly experienced racism, I don't think you can ever understand what it feels like to abused like that. A mate of mine is going out with a Pakistani girl (he is white), and I know for a fact that they have been racially abused because of it (usually by groups of nobheads passing in cars). It really got to him more than her (I assume she is used to that crap).

I hate racism perhaps more than any other form of bigotry - it's so destructive and divisive. It's obvious that we will never have a truly civilised society until it is eliminated.

[This message has been edited by Dowding (edited 01-19-2001).]

TheWobble · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2001, 04:09:00 PM »

"nobheads"
well if you hold yerself to the same standards ya hold me to for saying gook that 1 time several months ago now you are a racist bigot too dipshit.

[This message has been edited by TheWobble (edited 01-19-2001).]

Eagler · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2001, 04:12:00 PM »

Racism is ignorance

Ignorance of the fact the way way down inside we are all one.

Until that truth is realized by all, we will have racism. How and what one does with it defines his/her character. To exploit the fact that racism exists is to feed it and make it grow. We saw a fine case of this with the vote in Florida and now with Ashcrofts nomination. Both just stirred the racist pot with nothing good coming out of it but increased racism.

Eagler