stall idea

[bagrat]

i saw this on a diff game but what if when planes began to stall they  would shake, kinda like when ur goin 600mph? you know from the unbalance of wind crossing an hitting the wings.....YEAH!

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Tis called buffeting,

[bagrat]

buffeting.............yes a buffet is involved

[FiLtH]

I hate them..the food is always lousy.

[Gooss]

Oh, man.  How long did you plan that?

I'm still giggling.

HONK!
Gooss

[thndregg]

I think there ought to be some buffeting from the puffy-ack also.

[rshubert]

Originally posted by bagrat
i saw this on a diff game but what if when planes began to stall they  would shake, kinda like when ur goin 600mph? you know from the unbalance of wind crossing an hitting the wings.....YEAH!

Well, there are more than one kind of stall, and the plane gives different "signals" for each.  Many planes don't buffet before stalling, ever (such as cessna 172, for example, in my experience).  

We do have a stall horn, by the way.  Why model buffeting in planes that don't when the stall horn gives a great indication of impending stall?

[Knite]

Originally posted by thndregg
I think there ought to be some buffeting from the puffy-ack also.

I concur. It would be very cool if the screen shook on a close blast.

[Iceman24]

I fly a 1983 cesna 172 and when it stalls it does kinda shake just a bit, right as it hits stall speed, but once you release the pressure on the wheel and nose it down a hair it goes away really quick... next time you fly 1 ( I'm assuming you fly ) check it out, right b4 it actually stalls out when your basically holding the plane in the air with your controls and your on the edge of the stall you'll feel the buffetting, you can really feel it through your hands as they are on the controls

[eilif]

I think the default stall horn, and most custom ones that try to emulate the stall horn are soo enoying! I replaced it with the buffeting sound that waffle made, much more comfertable on the ears. Are there any buffet stalls in ah? i forget.

[Brooke]

I think the horn is the best way to indicate impending stall.  In many (perhaps most) WWII aircraft, there were no stall horns; and aircraft differred on how much indication each gave of impending stall.  However, other than a horn, the indication would be a feeling of buffetting, and that is much harder to convey just with screen shake or a subtle sound -- such effects are not as noticable as having your body feel the buffetting.  In computer simulations, you have to substitute one sensory modality for another, and it is important for the substituted modality to be as easy to notice as what it is substituded for.

For me, having flown games without the horn but only with screen shake and buffetting noise (like WWIIOL), I much prefer the horn as a warning of impending stall.

[Donzo]

Old topic...see here

[rshubert]

Originally posted by Iceman24
I fly a 1983 cesna 172 and when it stalls it does kinda shake just a bit, right as it hits stall speed, but once you release the pressure on the wheel and nose it down a hair it goes away really quick... next time you fly 1 ( I'm assuming you fly ) check it out, right b4 it actually stalls out when your basically holding the plane in the air with your controls and your on the edge of the stall you'll feel the buffetting, you can really feel it through your hands as they are on the controls

They changed the wing in (i think) '71 or '72.  My '67 did NOT buffet or shake.  Wheel full back, power all the way off, all I ever got was a mushy feeling followed by the nose drop.  I never did any stalls in the later models, so yo are no doubt correct there.

Now, if you want a nasty stall, try a traumahawk.  Wants to drop a wing and spin you.  And it isn't approved for spins, since recovery is "problematic".

[bagrat]

Gooss how important was it for you to tell everyone here that you "giggle"......
as in like a school girl hehe

[Gooss]

I still think you three guys put that up just as a gag.  A great straight line, a set-up, and Filth's punch line.  Priceless.

You don't giggle?  Damn.

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Gooss