Author Topic: A6M death! (Read 2101 times)

Masherbrum · « **Reply #30 on:** February 01, 2006, 06:05:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Schatzi
Yeah, HMk1 a lot more nimble then the HMk2C. And those 303s can hurt very much at close range.
But any a6m has a definite engine power advantage over the HMk1. Just try to rope the Hurr into an inverted position.

Ive never flown the Zeke much (just fought it a lot). Is it lighter/has stronger engine then the HMk2C?

Slapshot, im not so sure about the turn. IIRC, sustained the Zeke only has a 1 sec adv over the HMk1. And the Hurr hangs on its prop well, just dont get inverted.

PS: Equal pilots, the a6m5 is managable for a hurr1, the a6m2 almost impossible to get (same turn, better guns and better eng).

You WANT to dive, climb inverted, the carb doesn't stall. Zeke should win with no HO's. The Zeke is VERY capable of besting the Hurricane often, depends on the tactics used.

Karaya

Karnak · « **Reply #31 on:** February 01, 2006, 06:33:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Cannon rounds frequently jammed in WWII, I'd love to see this brought to AH2. Would force people to be creative, limit the "spray n pray". But it won't.

Depends on your definition of "frequently" I guess.

The Hispano Mk II was fairly prone to jamming. According to the Brits it jammed about once for every 2000 rounds fired. That is about one jam every eight Spitfire flights. Other cannon were more reliable.

I don't think having the cannon jam would result in what you want.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #32 on:** February 01, 2006, 06:44:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
Depends on your definition of "frequently" I guess.

The Hispano Mk II was fairly prone to jamming. According to the Brits it jammed about once for every 2000 rounds fired. That is about one jam every eight Spitfire flights. Other cannon were more reliable.

I don't think having the cannon jam would result in what you want.

I know it won't. It has become HO's High. I've read many accounts of "Cannon equipped craft" shooting down enemy craft with MG's as opposed Cannon they THOUGHT they were firing.

Also, "about once every 2000 rounds" can be construed a hundred different ways.

Masher

bagrat · « **Reply #33 on:** February 01, 2006, 08:17:30 PM »

Usually I try to avoid ho's, my reason for goin into it with the A6m was that a zero is my worst nightmare while in a hurri (a6m is faster and out turns with ease) However i wanted to land my kills an knew if I didnt take this opportunity to attack I would for sure be on the defensive end the remainder of the fight, also I was somewhat confident in the hurris ability to take a beatin.

For the idea of gun jams I dunno that would be somewhat be based on the roll of the dice, but guns overheating would have the same effect and only occur to those who spray for long periods of time.

Schatzi · « **Reply #34 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:41:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
You WANT to dive, climb inverted, the carb doesn't stall. Zeke should win with no HO's. The Zeke is VERY capable of besting the Hurricane often, depends on the tactics used.

Karaya

Actually for a shallow dive I bank a few degrees and go into a kind of descending turn, keeping my Gs positive with rudder input. Yes i know that bleeds a bit of E, but its still better than trying to dive with eng off

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Rolling completely over for diving only makes sense for really steep dives.

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #35 on:** February 02, 2006, 03:06:29 AM »

i need a good fight right now, schatzi you fancy going to DA?

I will fly the zekes and you fly the hurricanes, then we will swap to force a control for the experiment.

we can post our results. I'm pretty sure there is not much seperating us in pilot skills.

Karnak · « **Reply #36 on:** February 02, 2006, 10:16:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Also, "about once every 2000 rounds" can be construed a hundred different ways.

It can?

That seems like a rather false position taken simply to back up your bias against cannons.

If, as you insinuate, cannons were junk with a high jam rate often leading fighter pilots to shot down their targets with the MG secondary armament don't you think that Germany, Japan, Italy, Russia, France, the United Kingdom and the United States Navy would have kept going with MGs? Just maybe?

As to how that statement can be interpeted 100 different ways I can't see. It is as clear in its meaning as an english phrase can be.

Saxman · « **Reply #37 on:** February 02, 2006, 10:39:13 AM »

Maybe it's the first round in that series of 2000 that jams.

Karnak · « **Reply #38 on:** February 02, 2006, 01:12:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Saxman
Maybe it's the first round in that series of 2000 that jams.

Of course. That is what it means.

Essentially it says that each round fired has roughly a 0.05% chance of jamming.

You could, in theory, have fifty rounds jam in a row. Of course you could also win the lottery, get hit by a falling piece of a 747 and get struck by lightning all at the same time too.