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Offline MiloMorai

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« on: February 01, 2006, 04:11:16 AM »
You all remember Crumpp's fanatical claim, in the F8F thread, about the main spar of the 190.

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The FW-190's is one solid piece running throughout most of the wing. It is not bolted together or fitted from the fuselage. The wings run under the fuselage and the main spar is one continous piece.
Well I have come across some info that has the main spar being composed of seven, yes  7, seperate pieces.

There was the centre piece, then the piece to join the kinks and then from the outer kink 2 more pieces.

So much for Crumpp's claim of one continous piece. :eek:

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2006, 06:04:54 AM »
Can you show us the info?

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2006, 06:10:18 AM »
I have seen the main spar on an fw190 and it is one piece for roughly 75% of the wing's overall length.  I didn't measure it but it looked to me to be an I-beam of roughly 5"x5"x 1/2" T6000 series aluminum.  the piece extends out to the area roughly corresponding to where the inner aileron hinge is attached to the wing.

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2006, 07:45:17 AM »
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Originally posted by Charge
Can you show us the info?

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As soon as I get it scanned it will be posted.

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2006, 08:58:14 AM »
Milo has it right I belive.
Wasn't that already on the F8F thread, or could one not see it properly?
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2006, 09:55:33 AM »
This is gonna be good.

Waiting with baited breath...  

Please post your PROOF.

:rofl

All the best,

Crumpp
« Last Edit: February 01, 2006, 10:03:33 AM by Crumpp »

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2006, 10:08:59 AM »
You got reading difficulties Crumpp? I said I will post when I get it scanned. :huh

Be prepared to wiggle and squirm while eating crow. :D

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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2006, 10:18:42 AM »
Crumpp, are you sticking to this, that the main spar is a unique single piece, not bolted etc? I recall the longest single spar (bolted at wingtips I belive) was the a6m, but, alas, me and my memory ;)

I am pretty sure the 190 is joined, just less than many others.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2006, 12:18:07 PM »
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I am pretty sure the 190 is joined, just less than many others.


I know exactly where this is coming from Angus.

Milo has a copy of the Ersatzteilliste and he thinks he knows something he does not.

All the best,

Crumpp

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2006, 01:25:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Crumpp
I know exactly where this is coming from Angus.

Milo has a copy of the Ersatzteilliste and he thinks he knows something he does not.
So post the relevent page so I don't have to go get a scan done.

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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2006, 02:16:58 PM »
I will let you dig your own hole Milo.

While I am glad to help anyone out, you obviously opened this thread with the intention of attacking my integrety.

Fix your scanner and post your evidence, please!

All the best,

Crumpp
« Last Edit: February 01, 2006, 02:19:48 PM by Crumpp »

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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2006, 02:55:02 PM »
I don't have to attack your integrity, you do a good job of that by yourself.

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2006, 04:09:34 PM »
Post your evidence Milo.  You childishly ran your mouth, now back it up.

All the best,

Crumpp

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2006, 04:16:38 PM »
Ah poor little Crumpp. :(

Later tonight you will see it but could be after midnight. :)

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2006, 06:16:25 PM »
Crumpp, you are in a restoration crew of a 190, right?
I don't know how far you go stripping the aircraft, but surely you either have some blueprints, or you have seen it with the naked eye, right?
On second thought, seeing it means you have it all in little pieces. There were some maintenance issues mentioned if there was a whole spar.
And there I stop and wonder. Now, a whole spar, as far as goes, from tip to tip, would be stronger than a joined one, but to fix and such, vastly worse. Look at the 109. Easy to fix. Take wings off while the fuselage stands on the wheels. Change engine (both on 109 and 190) in insane speed. So, - a totally whole spar seems a bit "un-german" to me, that's all.
Guess we'll have to wait a bit. Milo will bring some light in.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)