Author Topic: Idea for PBYs, Mavis, Mars, Kingfishers, etc... (Read 1990 times)

Saxman · « **on:** February 03, 2006, 01:04:51 AM »

Here's an idea I had that could be useful for some aircraft:

The ability for players to "report" the location of an enemy carrier. Once reported, the CV group's location would appear on the map. However the icon is static and doesn't move with the TG unless the new position is reported by a pilot.

This function would be limited to certain aircraft. It'd give another reason to add (AND for players to fly) aircraft like the PBY, Mars and Mavis flying boats, or smaller scouts like the Kingfisher. Buffs like the B-17 can also report, but maybe set it up that ONLY if the buff is flying without a formation.

Adding another option to sortie types, like recon, would be one way to limit it. Say, the only way to report a carrier's position is if you're flying a recon sortie.

It could be a way to get people to start being smart about CV use in the MA, since once reported, every buff pilot and their mother will be homing in on the flattop's MAPPED location

The icon could be on a set time limit, say half an hour to an hour after which it is gone from the map unless the position is updated.

SMIDSY · « **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2006, 02:01:30 AM »

seems like a good idea. also, if there is no CV group, no icon appears. and you get lots of perkies for spotting one. i already do this on my free time with the navy camo B-24 and sometimes the Ar-234.

Martyn · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2006, 01:34:12 PM »

Yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes
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Was I clear enough?

At the moment there's no real reason to have PBYs, Sunderlands, Condors etc. in the game but to allow spotting (and picking up the odd perk) would be ideal. The CV would have to mount air patrols to prevent being spotted - just (a bit) like RL.

I often up a buff, set it on a long over-sea course, make myself a sandwich, come back and patrol the nme coastline near their ports looking for fresh fleets - before I get bored and re-up elsewhere.

parin · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2006, 12:40:15 PM »

Could be like a check six call on the CV group. Just hit the *key* and it is taged.

mussie · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2006, 01:02:25 PM »

Ar234 as a scout..... thats not a bad idea.

Have used it to tease NME fighters before but never as a scout

KD303 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2006, 07:28:27 AM »

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Originally posted by mussie
Ar234 as a scout..... thats not a bad idea.

Have used it to tease NME fighters before but never as a scout

Yeah, the Arado's great for armed recce. You can do some damage to a carrier with those 500kg bombs.
The OP seems a bit biased towards American aircraft - Sunderlands would be a good plane for this role. Say, Catalina (PBY) and Sunderland (and FW200 at a pinch). Better to have flying boats because they could be based at ports. I'd prefer the big planes but I suppose an Arado 196 could be used, though I doubt anyone would use it much. Maybe better with one of the big Dorniers (18, 24) or a Blohm and Voss (138). I think it would add to the game. I've been wantinga Sunderland for a while now, and the OPs suggestion seems a good reason to get one.

KD

Martyn · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2006, 10:08:39 AM »

I've just thought - if HTC have PBYs and stuff would that not help with CT too? They could have 'Hunt for the Bismark' scenarios - easy. Just have fleets with no CVs (Bismark, Scharnhorst et. al.) and lots of water (not too dificult to map I think).

Cruiser based fleets have been suggested in the past too for naval engagements of the bang-bang kind.

River Plate? One cruiser against a few destroyers (OK OK - I know it's inaccurate - but you get my drift).

Midway too! (That has to be on the cards already).

Seems like an idea which'll add a new dimension with little development cost.

Saxman · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2006, 11:15:55 AM »

Well, PBY was more amphibious than pure flying boat, as they could also fly from land bases, so they'd need to be available at airfields, as well.

Sikboy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2006, 07:03:20 PM »

I like this idea.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122448&highlight=MARPAT

-Sik

helldiver · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2006, 04:44:45 PM »

yeah a pby would be good or a kingfisher

Karnak · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2006, 05:03:27 PM »

Emily. That is all.

Ok, a reason, Emily had 24 hours of fuel endurance at cruise settings, even at 2X burn rate that would be 12 hours of flight time available.

She was also a decent bomber as Japanese stuff goes.

SuperDud · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2006, 05:58:13 PM »

I have no strong feelings either way, but let me play devils advocate:D

1st point I'll make, is what would the icon thing add? It seems to me that when you find a CV then call it out on the radio a horde quickly arrives regardless of whether theres an icon or not.

2nd and probably more important. Seriously, who's really going to want to fly recon for hours on end? I don't doubt a few crazies will but the vast majority of the arenas aren't going to bother. How exciting can it be to fly expanses of sea searching for a CV group? Especially when all it takes is for the call to go out that a CV is attacking a base, up a horde of dive bombing lancs and sink the carrier in minutes. In order for it to be worth the time to find one out at sea they'd need to up the power of the CV group considerably.

3rd, why would a player take a PBY, swordfish, Emily, etc.. over a Lanc or 24's or even a TBM? The heavies carry a better payload and better defense and can recon just as well. I think the new planes would see some use intitially but then the guys wanting to hunt CV's would revert back to the heavies and jabos.

Like I said, I have no strong feelings either way, but the above questions kind of popped into my head when thinking about it. Just some food for thought.

helldiver · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2006, 09:27:50 AM »

here is another idea to help get pby's and kingfishers in game.get this search and rescure (sar) operations!
i know people can just warp back to the tower but still it would be cool!

WELL GOOD IDEA RIGHT?

Martyn · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2006, 11:48:22 AM »

SAR would only work if the downed pilot got to keep any perks he earnt during his prevous flight. But if that were true a few would-be aces would appreciate a storch, or kingfisher etc on stand-by.

helldiver · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2006, 12:16:17 PM »

so it's a good idea then?