For Beetle (guns related)

[Saintaw]

Doctors:

   

(A)  The number of physicians in the U.S. is
   700,000.

     (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians  

per year are  

120,000.

   

(C) Accidental deaths per physician  

is

   0.171

   

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of

   

Health Human Services.

   

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Now think about this:

   

Guns:

   

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is:        

80,000,000.

   

(Yes, that's 80 million..)

   

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year,      

all age groups, is:

   

1,500.

   

(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner  

is

   .000188

   

Statistics courtesy of FBI

   

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   So, statistically, doctors are approximately
    9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
   Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
   FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,
    BUT
   ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
   Please alert your friends
   to this
    alarming threat.
   We must ban doctors
   before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
   Out of concern for the public at large,
   I have withheld the statistics on
   lawyers
   for fear the shock would cause
   people to panic and seek medical attention

[Curval]

Okay, who hijacked Saw's account?  Rip?  Lazs?  Gunslinger?

Come on...fess up.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

That is one Amreekinized French man.
-SW

[Henrique Jitsu]

Those statiscs are about accidents only.Include the mad cheated gunowner or the drugdealers gunowners and it will rise to over 100 thousand a year

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Originally posted by Henrique Jitsu
Include the mad cheated gunowner or the drugdealers gunowners and it will rise to over 100 thousand a year

Nope. Not close at all.
-SW

[USHilDvl]

100,000 per year?  I don't think so.  Not even close.

Only goes to show why I'd rather be on the shooting range, than in a hospital.  Those places are dangerous, man....

[Replicant]

I don't know who the original source is but this from the BBC website:

GUN-RELATED DEATHS 2002


UK: 81
Canada: 816
US: 30,242
Figures do not distinguish between crime-related and accidental or self-inflicted deaths

[SOB]

This brings up an important question: How many people in the U.S. are shot (with a gun) by their doctor?!

[Replicant]

How many did Dr. Harold Shipman kill in the UK?

[Saintaw]

edit: nevermind

[moot]

Surrender monkey!!

[lazs2]

replicant I believe that you are counting suicides too?   There were only about 9,000 homicides including justified ones in the U.S.  If you include suicides in violent deaths then the rate of violent human infliocted death is about the same in America as it is in england and other countries....

Or have it another way...  If you are saying that none of these homicides or suicides would happen with draconian british tyranny inspired gun laws then...

the murders and suicides minus those related to guns (wouldn't have any right?) in the U.S. would make us the meekest country on the planet with a combined homicide and suicide rate far below even japan say.

You can't have it both ways... if the guns here are the only reason people murder or suicide and taking away the guns would get rid of those numbers then...  we would be far less suicidal and murderous than your country...

Soo..... we can't help it... the guns make us do it but you.... well.... you have no guns sooo.... you must simply be barbarians.

lazs

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Replicant
How many did Dr. Harold Shipman kill in the UK?

Some 400...and he shot them too. (With a lethal injection of diamorphine...)

[Replicant]

Originally posted by lazs2
replicant I believe that you are counting suicides too?   There were only about 9,000 homicides including justified ones in the U.S.  If you include suicides in violent deaths then the rate of violent human infliocted death is about the same in America as it is in england and other countries....

Or have it another way...  If you are saying that none of these homicides or suicides would happen with draconian british tyranny inspired gun laws then...

the murders and suicides minus those related to guns (wouldn't have any right?) in the U.S. would make us the meekest country on the planet with a combined homicide and suicide rate far below even japan say.

You can't have it both ways... if the guns here are the only reason people murder or suicide and taking away the guns would get rid of those numbers then...  we would be far less suicidal and murderous than your country...

Soo..... we can't help it... the guns make us do it but you.... well.... you have no guns sooo.... you must simply be barbarians.

lazs

I'm not saying anything, I'm just providing a link to what the BBC published a few weeks ago.  As stated before I don't know the original source.

However, if the information is correct it still states the amount of gun related deaths.  It's irrelevent comparing it to anything else because the subject of this thread is 'guns related', not other means of death but I see where you're coming from.  If anything it just highlights the ease of death relating to a gun (rather than the person accidently killed himself with a knife and fork).

[texace]

So in a nutshell:

Europeans when discussing American gun control laws: "Guns are deadly weapons, and there's more violent crime in American because of your laws."

Americans when discussing American gun laws: "Guns allow people to defend themselves from criminals, making society safer."

And the Gun Control Circle Jerk continues...