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[Henrique Jitsu]

See Rule #4, #5

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Henrique Jitsu

This game is cool,but some people here...

I can agree, but in a way you may not like it...

Canīt say anything ībout your "incident" but i donīt think your behaviour in the main was right. Telling a helpless newbie outright to "do not go to training area, the trainers are idiots", as you did a couple of minutes ago in the MA is neither mature nor helping anyone nor true.

I spent a lot of time the last few months in the TA, sometimes learning, sometimes helping. NEVER any trainer showed any sign of impatience, megalomania or injustice. I saw rarely someone to be kicked, and only after lots of warnings.

[Ghosth]

"Today is one more time that I got ejected by an idiot"

So your admiting this is not the first time? When else were you booted and why?


Let me spell it out for you. There are 4 simple rules to follow.
They show up when you first log into the arena.
Or in tower you can click "show MOTD"

Failure to follow those rules can result in instant ejection from arena.

Granted he should have probably warned you first.
But if you have had problems in there before, its not supriseing that you got booted without a warning.

Next, calling trainers idiots or stupid  is not how you win friends or influence people around here.

Last, while I did not have the pleasure to be the one to boot you last time.
If you show up in the TA while I'm on watch I strongly suggest you mind your P's & Q's.  Actions have consequences, in the TA they can happen very quickly.

At this point you have 2 main options left. You can stay out of the TA, hope to learn it all on your own in the main. (be sure not to lose that chip on your shoulder, should come in handy in there)

Or you can accept that you were at least partially to blame, apoligise, and hope the trainers decide to give you another chance.

Either way ranting in the BBS solves nothing.

[WMLute]

u sure it was for dropping d/t's?

I'm suspecting there is more to this story.  Who knows, who cares, just obey the rules, be polite, and use the TA to get better.  That's what it's there for.  

I had a brand new player show up to one of the King of the Hill events, and proceded to just fly around, clueless to what was going on.  He was warned, private mesaged to, spoken to on vox, then finally I .ejected 'em.  The NEXT week was another KOTH, and he showed up, and was again disruptive.  Warned twice then .ejected.  The very NEXT KOTH, and this is a month later, so he's not as much of a noob, he actually tried to participate.  When he was shot down, he stayed in his chute, and was asked to end flight, as he was a distraction, to wit he replied "no, I don't wanna"  BOOM instant .eject.  If it's someone that I have had to warn and eject before, I will move straight to the .eject w/o a warning.  So I GUESS what I am saying is that due to your prior ejections in the TA, they probably are less tolerant of you behavior, and more prone to just boot ya'.  If you have disrupted an event that I am hosting in the past, I will cut you less slack, and would be much more likely to just .eject ya'.

Would be a good idea to consider being polite to the trainers if you wanna keep flying in the TA.  Spouting off in the MA, and then on the BBS probably isn't the best way to cultivate a positive relationship with the Aces High Training Corps.

My 2 cents.

[Morpheus]

lolz

[thndregg]

Originally posted by Henrique Jitsu
I dropped my fuel tanks on runway and they exploded........Dont he know that bombs make craters?

[Widewing]

Originally posted by WMLute
u sure it was for dropping d/t's?

I'm suspecting there is more to this story.

Oh yeah, there's a LOT more to this story. This huckleberry consistently ignores the posted rules. Ren reported on the Trainer's forum: "JiuJitsu took off and immediately turned to egg A1. People really are trying to learn and this is at least the third time with him too."

I've warned him a few times about misbehavior myself. Most of the time, a polite warning is all that is necessary for the majority of mildly disruptive players. Some players feel they must push their luck. Those guys usually get the boot if they continue to disrupt the room.

My regards,

Widewing

[ROC]

Oooh, tough one here.  On one hand, I know most of the trainers, such as Widewing here, and can say that they are very patient considering the large influx of new people that come to them.  If that patience has been taxed, it probably wasn't arbitrary.

I also know that the inevitable inexperienced gamer is bound to find his/her way in here from the latest quake/NFS/younamethesmashanddashgame and don't quite understand how it's done at this level.

Best that can be hoped for is jiujitsu here steps back, realises he isn't at home and won't be catered too, and that some things are inappropriate behavior.  That would be a great way to start over, as this group is Very Forgiving, knowing that it's not the person who is wrong, but the online experience up to this point has simply not been at the level and quality to teach them tact, dignity, grace and manners.

With that, I'm sure that lessons can be learned and burnt bridges repaired.

Then again, there is always the name on the list that will make me look twice at the registration, just in case some names turn up in any of My events

[Golfer]

He's lucky he isn't one of my students.  He'd find out what it's like to go skydiving without a parachute, if ya know what I mean.

Of course I'd be careful to keep his credit card number on file to collect my full hourly wage for flight time and make sure I was paid in addition to the complete satisfaction of tossing him out of the airplane.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Morpheus
lolz

I totaly agree.

[Henrique Jitsu]

Originally posted by Ghosth


So your admiting this is not the first time? When else were you booted and why?

I flew over A1 being a Knight.And I will keep doing that if the rules dont change and I feel into doing it, I've seen many trainers say that you cant overfly A1 being an enemy.I simply didn't find that rule or any related.

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by Henrique Jitsu
I flew over A1 being a Knight.And I will keep doing that if I want, I've seen many trainers say that you cant overfly A1 being an enemy.I simply didn't find that rule or any related.

Juijitsu  <------ his actual gameid  ingame, btw, how come you being like this?

Last week , when I came in and you was asking for help,  and I started working with you, you explicitly told me, I alread know this, so I went to explain and show you something else, you proceeded to say"I already know that!"

Yet, as I tryed to help you / work with you, you would continously take off, without listening, and all you really wanted to do was , show me how good you could do somethings. that is all I will say on that matter, but the thing is, when I called you down and anyone else down that day, you said ok/understood/sorry or something ressembling an answer of this type.

We had no problems. I also told everyone in their to READ the MOTD.

If you don't listen to us Jitsu, then you will be booted everytime, unless you are flat out banned.........so I seriously would advise you to not go against the grain....

I know how being 15 years old is on a teenager, you not a kid anymore, but not quiet an adult either, but you think you got all the answers......just like when you told me"I read all of netaces.org, I know all of it"!!! ( honestly, I got a big giggle out of this statement, I would not even play this game if it was as simple as reading some text , then it becomes a cakewalk from there on....)

That is why I asked you to go and let me work with you on your stick settings, your views setup, showing you BFMs, and walking you into the "basic merge" and why I went over finding the flight envelope edges of your plane type.....do you still remember what the Lift Vector is?

seeing how you "Already Know It All" you shouldn't of had any problems, yet you stalled/spun and augered , during these performances......

so, if you want to come into our domain, and be disruptive & not follow the rules, and not show some common courtesy of others in the Training Arena, then you might as well "Grab your Manche" and go play in the DA or MA.........

Why the sudden change though, I am not sure, but it is only going to hurt you!!!  Take heed, you have been warned....

now on a lighter note: if you want to work on some tactics, Jitsu, or work on a particular plane type / gunnery etc.......please feel free to email the trainers or ask one of them when you pop into the arena....We are here to help you......

but throwing out an ultimatum type statement like you just did --->

Originally posted by Henrique Jitsu
I flew over A1 being a Knight.And I will keep doing that if I want, I've seen many trainers say that you cant overfly A1 being an enemy.I simply didn't find that rule or any related.

is only going to cause you grief! let it go now, and enjoy the game, live and learn, you are too new & too young to become a rotting Lemming corpse.......

if you follow my advice, you will eventually see everything you are missing about this flight sim & community at this current moment.......

Have A good Day, Juijitsu.......

[Pooface]

jitsu, you were booted after several warnings. read the rules and stick to them please, they're there to help new players. if you need to be warned 3 times before being booted you have no right to argue against it. the trainers are there to help new players, or people that want to learn/practise. if this means getting rid of troublesome players then so be it. if you've been booted twice, do you reckon you've learned a lesson from it?

next time you come by the TA, please read the rules over again, to make sure you know what not to do

[2bighorn]

Originally posted by Henrique Jitsu
I've seen many trainers say that you cant overfly A1 being an enemy.I simply didn't find that rule or any related.

Trainers are "allowed" to make/adopt/modify rules if necessary. Rules don't have to be written. If they inform you about what you shouldn't do, you just don't do it.

[Pooface]

well, forget that anyway bighorn, it IS written. i think its rule no. 2


jitsu, please, read it next time!