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« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2006, 08:12:50 PM »
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Very hard to decifer the thought processes of the savage.


HEY! I am THE SaVaGe. Now that you mention it, some people have trouble following my thought patterns though.
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« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2006, 09:09:49 PM »
NZ newspapers have published it (seems like the media globally is taking a stand), will be interesting... the Muslim community here is small, any such protests would likely attract a direct response .

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« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2006, 10:39:37 PM »
Hi All,

I'm currently reading my way through Wallid Phares, excellent book Future Jihad. Phares, who is Lebanese, is currently MSNBC/NBCs terrorism expert, he advised the 9/11 commission, is a senior fellow with the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. Phares leads off his book with a warning that for several years now the West has been attempting to "redefine" Jihad away from its historic meaning, and to explain it away as benign and spiritual. Having been raised in the Middle East himself, he recognized that this "spiritual" view of Jihad being actively peddled in the West was not the view of Jihad the predominates in the Middle East, for instance he writes:

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In most literature, scholarly articles, public lectures, and lobbying and social efforts related to the Middle East politics, as well as religious studies and interfaith activities, there was a constant attempt to portray Jihad as a spiritual phenomenon that could be and was abused by extremist ideologies and radical political factions who were making it into something it really was not. In the early 1990s, I was stunned to read and hear the Western establishment making these tremendous efforts to convince audiences and readers of the benign character of jihad; in the Middle East, for the most part, the term retained its age-old, unreconstructed meanings. Jihad is not benign, and the West's denial of that fact was terrible ironic. By instinct and as a result of my personal and professional background, I realized the enormity of what was happening: The United States was paving the way for its own defeat, by blurring its vision, confusing its mind, and moderating its reactions to the early danger signs, not to mention the terrorist strikes to come.


What we are seeing in the violent reactions within the Umma to these cartoons, is the real, unreconstructed, historic face of Islam and the longer we go on peddling this ridiculous notion that at heart it is a peaceful, moderate to liberal religion that will tolerate dissension, permit other religions to proselytize within its "bounds" and turn the other cheek when criticized or ridiculed, the more certain that we will eventually lose the war the Jihadis have declared on us. You don't coexist peacefully with Islam, you either convert, submit to being a subjugated third class citizen, or you die. Those are the only three options that have ever historically been offered. In a sense, the blind seething hatred that has been unleashed on the west in the wake of the Cartoons, the election of Hamas, the massacre of schoolchildren in Beslan, and the ongoing "we will develop and use Nuclear weapons to kill you all" stance of Iran might actually be a good thing if they cause a few people in the West to wake up to the true nature of Islam.  

Please understand me, I wouldn't make the above observations about any other world religion. Even those that do persecute on occasion, tend to do so in an unsystematic fashion, and not in pursuit of violent world conquest. Islam is thoroughly different, it is an ideology of conquest, domination, and subjugation by any means necessary. Either the civil magistrates in the West begin to actively resist its expansion, or we get used to the idea that someday our children may have to choose between converting to Islam or submitting to Dhimmitude. I don't know many fathers here who would be wild about their daughters or grand-daughters living the rest of their lives under a Burka or a Hijab, unable to even go outside unless they are escorted by a close male relative, and yet that is the reality that some of my friends who live in Muslim nations like Pakistan have had to deal with, don't think for a moment that it couldn't also become the reality of life in Europe.

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« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2006, 10:42:30 PM »
.... more Mohammed cartoons.

Cartoon them back to the stone age feral dogs that they are, I say.
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« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2006, 10:47:15 PM »
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What, is everyone here retarded?


I explained the reason why the State Department said what it said.

I'll quote myself for those too mentally incompetant to find it themselves.


I'm sure that most of the other posters here also realise that you're young and semi-educated, so they probably aren't really offended either.

Here's a word to the wise, though: get over yourself.

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« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2006, 11:18:40 PM »
What I want to see:

Kidnap a radical muslim Imam during ramadan, and shoot a crappy home video of him tied on the floor.  Hooded rednecks will be in the background holding beer and eating something greasy while daylight clearly shines in through the window.  Behind them on the wall will be hung at least one sports illustrated swimsuit issue pinup and the the URL http://www.playboy.com.

A long boring statement of why NASCAR and those half-naked girls that hold the numbers between boxing rounds are a good idea will be read, followed by a reading of the US constitution and every amendment.  At the end of the statement, the bound and blindfolded Imam will be asked to renounce Jihad and embrace cultural relativism.  If he refuses, a hooters girl will sneak up behind him and give him a tequilla shooter with a beer chaser.  He'll also be dressed in a hawaiian shirt and a hat that says "god is great and Earnhardt is his prophet".

The video will be released on the intarweb and Fox will of course run it after stating that they have no idea who sent them the tape and are so sorry they can't possibly help find the people who filmed it.

The Imam will be found a week later drunk and passed out in an Arabic public marketplace with a tattoo of Muhammed on his left shoulder, a half-empty MGD in his hand, a compact book of Mormon in his pocket, and a mickey mouse hat duct-taped to his head.  His finger and toenails will be painted pink and his beard will have been shaven.

And every time a hostage is taken and killed or beheaded, we should repeat this general gameplan.  Variations include simply taking the kidnap subject to disneyland or the coors bottling plant, videotaping the trip, and sending a copy of the tape to his entire family.  They need to know that torture and terror works both ways!
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« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2006, 11:25:21 PM »
LMAO!

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« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2006, 12:05:08 AM »
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What I want to see:

Kidnap a radical muslim Imam during ramadan, and shoot a crappy home video of him tied on the floor.


"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962)."


I am in awe of your ability to totally miss the point.

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« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2006, 12:19:15 AM »
Hey Eegl,

Funny stuff indeed, you are to be complimented for your creativity, I kept waiting for mention of a link sausage necklace however.

The only problem is that such a video would cause the such a wave of outrage in our own media that we'd probably never recover. Not to mention what would happen in the Islamic world - that would make the burning of the Danish embassy seem like a picnic. You see that's the big difference, Daniel Berg has his head sawn off in a graphic video shown by Arab media and there is nothing more than a collective yawn or simple approval in the Middle East. Another infidel got what he deserved, whats the big deal? But there's a report that pages from the Quran were destroyed or cartoons featuring Mohammed are published and instantly a firestorm spreads throughout the Dar-El-Islam. If we stopped for a second to consider, "Hey, the lives of my entire family are worth less to the umma than a single page from a cheap paperback copy of the Quran" then we might take our "situation" more seriously.

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« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2006, 12:25:49 AM »
Oh, that's it Vor.  Insult my intelect by pretending a person younger then you is dumber then you.  By doing this, you'll pretend all your problems away!



Fact of the matter is, I am right.

Let me emphasize this point for you, and then you can try to refute it if you would like.


I AM RIGHT.

It is now up to you to prove me wrong.  Any attempt by you to further degrade me, or even to try to insult me will immediately, and automatically prove that I am right.  Hell, you'd have to pull some magical **** out of your bellybutton to even come close to winning this one.
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« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2006, 12:40:55 AM »
I support the Danish stance and all those who agree with their sentiment.
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« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2006, 01:38:46 AM »
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Then why are we the oldest Democracy in the world?:p


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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2006, 02:38:46 AM »
It's a shame that more people here aren't able to elevate 'spirited discussions' beyond emotional language or arguing around a hub of moral superiority.

If you really want to make sense of anything, you have take the opposite side of a debate or argument. Research it and debate it with as much vigor as possible. It's hard to do, but without that mindset, you'll forever be just a pawn.

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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2006, 03:30:40 AM »
Seeya. ;)

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« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2006, 03:47:14 AM »
I've been fed up with caving in to "their beheading demands".   Those who are silent and Muslim in the world, support the act, so F**k em.  I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

As for them chucking rocks at Danish police, they should have capped their a**es.

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