Author Topic: killing troops (Read 1070 times)

moneyguy · « **on:** February 04, 2006, 08:28:30 PM »

someone brought up a good point in the MA a few minutes ago. it should take more than a few cannon rounds from a Dora to kill the troops. maybe make the barraks more like a building that takes something like 3 1000lbs bombs to destroy. prolly a few buildings. in WWII, it would have taken more than a single pilot with a single plane to destroy all the troops at a base. anyways just a thought.

viper215 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:29:59 PM »

3000lbs to kill some paper pulled over some sticks?

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

SMIDSY · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:32:33 PM »

you are thinking in terms of destroying a building. but destroying barracks is essentially killing the troops themselves. cannon rounds may not completely destroy buildings but they are essentially small grenades. consider you only need one or two grenades to completely clear an average sized room, then consider that a 20mm shell is equal to about one third the explosive and shrapnal of an infantry grenade. so logically, 3-4 20mm cannon rounds should clear out a room in the barracks. THEN considering the type of barracks that we have ingame is the sheet metal kind with one large or three small rooms, it should take about 12 20mm cannon rounds to nock out a single barracks.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2006, 10:08:55 PM »

Yes, but you assume that all the troops would be huddled in the barracks knowing full well they'd be one of the first things attacked. But when the air raid warning goes off, you TAKE COVER, and NOT in the targets of choice.

nirvana · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2006, 12:22:39 AM »

I think you're supposed to hide under a desk when the air raid siren goes off...

SMIDSY · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2006, 02:34:38 AM »

also, durring the battle of Wake Island, many marines died because they had the bright idea of sleeping in the housing units durring the first night of the attack.

Simaril · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2006, 06:04:43 AM »

You guys are making the mistake of thinking the "barracks" are modelling an actual set of Quonset huts. AH models aircraft, but the rest is a GAME...

and the "barracks" arent really troop boxes. They're icons that STAND FOR the bases ability to mount a capture attempt. Their toughness isnt measured by what happens when you strafe a quonset hut or slit trench, its measured by the way game balance shifts when you tweak it.

Make em too hard, and its too easy to capture so the maps change too fast -- as soon as there's a numbers imbalance the big side is unstoppable. Make em too soft, and the maps last forever because you cant find anywhere with troops.

From a game standpoint, seems about right now.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2006, 06:22:09 AM »

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Originally posted by SMIDSY

also, durring the battle of Wake Island, many marines died because they had the bright idea of sleeping in the housing units durring the first night of the attack.

What class, mocking the dead to try and build "self-esteem".

Karaya

Ghosth · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2006, 07:06:30 AM »

Well said Simaril!

moneyguy · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2006, 08:31:50 AM »

ok...i see your point guys

SMIDSY · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2006, 09:33:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
What class, mocking the dead to try and build "self-esteem".

Karaya

OH GOD!!! i didnt meen it like that!!! the duck and cover was in responce to nirvana's post. the whole wake thing had nothing to do with that picture.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2006, 09:39:14 AM »

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Originally posted by SMIDSY
OH GOD!!! i didnt meen it like that!!! the duck and cover was in responce to nirvana's post. the whole wake thing had nothing to do with that picture.

Could careless about the picture. The "bright idea" portion was IMO, uncalled for.

Karaya

Mugzeee · « **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2006, 11:43:45 AM »

I think Simaril is correct . But once again, the answer lies in Resupply motivation. Creat more motivation for resupply and the problem (slight as it may be) is solved. As it stands your lucky to get 1.0 Vehicle perks for resupply of a base that lack troops only. And you might get 2.0 bomber perks ( worthless) for resupply of a base needing troops resupplied.