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Offline Krusher

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« on: February 06, 2006, 10:38:47 AM »
The University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes has published the findings of a poll of 20 countries which shows that 61% of people in those countries agree with the statement “the free enterprise system and free market economy is the best system on which to base the future of the world.” 28% disagreed.

The highest level of support was from China (74%) followed by the Philippines (73%), the US (71%), and India (70%).


Only 36% of French agree with the proposition while 50% disagree. With the exception of Argentina (42% in favour), Russia (43%) and Turkey (47%) all other countries showed a 57% or higher degree of support for free enterprise.

Nowhere did a majority disagree.

There is, however, strong (74% on average) support for more regulation of large companies to protect workers. Global companies are not particularly trusted (41%). Poorer countries tend to be more trusting — though not by much whereas mid and upper income countries tend to be least trusting.

Sixty-four per cent of those with higher education believe in free enterprise. For those with low education the figure falls to 56%.

Fifty-six per cent of those with low education believe that there should be greater regulation to protect investors whereas for those with high education the figure is 50%.

All of this suggests that people are apt to mistrust what they see as power over which they have no control. This is certainly true with respect to attitudes towards the regulation of large companies. Such companies are also generally perceived to belong to an establishment with too much influence over government. In believing that there should be more regulation of large companies people are, of course, expressing trust in their own governments to handle such regulation without corruption or the creation of too much red tape. This may be optimistic

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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2006, 10:50:41 AM »
Hey Boroda, what would Stalin do?

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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2006, 11:05:01 AM »
He would humanistically invite you to a workers paradise (gulag) in Siberia then humanistically shoot you whan you failed to produce enough. That is as long as you didn't say, think or listen to anything that may be construed as non corrct thought according to humanistic leader comerade stalin......
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2006, 04:42:26 PM »
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The goal of "free enterprise" is for one company to eventually rule the world.  

If you don't think so, well, I guess you aren't a capitalist after all.

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2006, 05:04:54 PM »
And there's more than one enterprise with profits at stake, and more than one entrepreneur up for the fight.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2006, 05:26:05 PM »
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The goal of "free enterprise" is for one company to eventually rule the world.  

 


How did you arrive at this conclusion?

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2006, 05:41:39 PM »
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How did you arrive at this conclusion?


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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2006, 06:21:46 PM »
Lassiez-Faire capitalism.  

Which if you are a capitalist, is the only kind.  

The strong crush the weak, and grow stronger.  

Thats almost poetic, actually.

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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2006, 09:39:43 AM »
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Sixty-four per cent of those with higher education believe in free enterprise. For those with low education the figure falls to 56%.


Funny, isn't it?

Free enterprising isn't a panacea. It works in some cases, and in some cases it doesn't. Again, it's not American Manichaean "black/white" concept of "good and evil".

Free enterprising is good for unimportant fields. For soda manufacuring or brewing beer it may be good to some extent, but if we need result fast and guaranteed - it is useless. Good example is "free enterprising" in Russian military industry during WWI: it failed miserably. "Free enterprises" were unable to make such a simple thing as rifle gunsight. Government centralised planned factories had no problems making much more complicated machinery. At the same time US weapon companies failed to produce rifles for Russian government, failing both in quantity and quality. Would you be so kind to explain it?

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2006, 09:49:36 AM »
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Funny, isn't it?

Free enterprising isn't a panacea. It works in some cases, and in some cases it doesn't. Again, it's not American Manichaean "black/white" concept of "good and evil".

 


Possibly, but the question was,

“the free enterprise system and free market economy is the best system on which to base the future of the world.”

I was surprised that in Communist China 74 percent agreed.

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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2006, 09:57:14 AM »
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Hey Boroda, what would Stalin do?


I'd say about 43% of the population would suddenly dissapear;)
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2006, 10:07:26 AM »
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Possibly, but the question was,

“the free enterprise system and free market economy is the best system on which to base the future of the world.”

I was surprised that in Communist China 74 percent agreed.


Why do I have the feeling that the poll only took place in Hong Kong?

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2006, 10:20:10 AM »
Whats communism?
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2006, 10:54:03 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2006, 10:55:34 AM »
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Funny, isn't it?

 At the same time US weapon companies failed to produce rifles for Russian government, failing both in quantity and quality. Would you be so kind to explain it?


Horsepucky. The Nagants made by Remington under contract for the Czar are significantly higher in quality, fit, finish and accuracy than those made in Russia and are highly sought after by collectors. In fact, a large number of those Nagants russia failed to pay for (and hence were not shipped to Russia) are still in service at our National Military Acadamies.. It should also be noted that russia also screwed Nagant in Belgium for his design work on the Mosin Rifle magazine and receiver, and then with your partners in the crime of patent theft the French; whom you also screwed for the machines to make them out of license in the Tula factory.. which the russians promptly copied and sent to Ishevesk.

I own a Remington made model 1891 Nagant, it makes the crude crap churned out of Tula and Ishevesk look like.... crude crap.

Typically, your government (bolshevk, imperial, communist, makes no difference) would contract with american and other foriegn companies for goods and then on reciept fail to pay for them and continue the contract and then send them off to your state factories for copy/reverse engineering.

Sadly, theft and reverse engineering of american designed and patented processes and products is something that's been a common practice world wide for over 100 years. The chinese are currently most adept at it and in a ironic twist, they are now screwing you too for engines and airframe license infringements.
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