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Offline Sloehand

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No points for 40 Kills?
« on: February 06, 2006, 06:01:50 PM »
I posted this to HiTech in the Technical forum, but thought I'd apraise the community at large.
I was just killed in a Tiger on an enemy base after scoring exactly 40 full kills plus some number of assists. The Tiger cost around 61 perkies, when I checked in hangar, my points were listed as (-59.59).
Now I did not expect to recover all points for the Tiger (and I know spawn camping is a sin), but 40 kills on a base where I was overwhelmed by enemy GV's should not give me a net of 1.41 points. If I haven't misunderstood the indicated points, then this is so wrong on so many levels.
Is this normal?  I don't think so as I've killed only 7 or 8 panzers in a Tiger before and gotten two or three times that many points.  So what happened?  Any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2006, 06:07:46 PM »
It is normal and not a bug.

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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2006, 06:16:46 PM »
LOL  Spawn a tiger @ 42 points. Never start engine. Squaddie hollers for help. Despawn. Lost tiger. Lost 43 points.

No idea how the system works.
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2006, 06:22:28 PM »
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It is normal and not a bug.

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Well, can you explain the reasoning?  I've gotten more points in a Tiger from much fewer kills.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2006, 06:26:52 PM »
i believe that the cost of buying one doesnt relate to the cost of losing one.

you pay the price indicated to have the right to use one, then lose whatever cost is at the time of death.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2006, 06:45:38 PM »
IMO, spawncamping shouldn't net a .01 of a perk.  

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2006, 07:01:42 PM »
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i believe that the cost of buying one doesnt relate to the cost of losing one.

you pay the price indicated to have the right to use one, then lose whatever cost is at the time of death.


That while not a bug IMO just plain isnt right

You should only loose what ever it cost when you got it.

And the pendulem wings both ways.
You buy a tiger at say 45 perks and your country #s go up causing the perk price to rise to say 70, You should still only loose 45. NOT 70

By the same token you buy a Tiger for 45 perks and your country number drops causing the perk value to drop to say 20 and you get killed, you still should loose 45 perks NOT 25

Whatever you guy it at should be the amount you loose it at.

The way it is now is just plain wrong
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2006, 07:08:31 PM »
lolz perks.
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2006, 07:16:50 PM »
Tiger is worth 5 ENY, Panzer is worth 30 ENY.  If you kill a Panzer with a Tiger that would be worth 5 divided by 30 which equals .16667 perks.  There is also the "Perk Bonus" value, which is fluid and depends on the difference in numbers between the countries rosters.  So lets say when the above kill was made the Tiger's country had the most people on, and the "Perk Bonus" was .79

So:    
(5/30)*.79=.131667 perks

Lets say you killed 40 panzers under those conditions.  .131667*40= a whopping 5.26 perks.

But you likely didnt kill all panzers, and the higher the ENY value of the vehicle you killed, the less perks you would earn.

Thats basically how it works.  It depends on the ENY values, and what your countries perk bonus is at the time.

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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2006, 08:52:46 PM »
and then dying makes u lose perkies...
Quote from: hitech on Today at 09:27:26 AM
What utter and compete BS, quite frankly I should kick you off this bbs for this post.

The real truth is you do not like the answer.

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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2006, 09:03:42 PM »
Yea, forgot about that....
So that previous 5.26 perks times the 'death/crashed penalty' (.25) would be 1.3166 perks

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2006, 09:32:59 PM »
In other words, no matter how many kills you made, you were on an enemy base at the end of your run and you DIED, which is the lowest score mulitplier there is.  You're lucky you were on the plus side of the board at all.  99% of the time, you'd have LOST points on that run.  Be happy with what you got.

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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2006, 10:06:17 PM »
ohhh someone just got PWNED with MATH! BURN!

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2006, 11:52:03 PM »
5 / 35 * 40 = small numer

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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2006, 12:16:38 AM »
The Tiger is a perkie money pit, bring on the Wirbelwind. :aok



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