Author Topic: open source intardnet (Read 684 times)

Octavius · « **on:** February 07, 2006, 12:20:25 AM »

http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/index.php?p=558

I'm not completely up to date on everything. He posits a nice argument, but is it a pipe dream? But what really caught my eye was the $200 billion pricetag and no product or framework.

Anyone know how to get a very general line item for this universal service fee we all pay? Some of it goes to subsidize rural phone service, and some goes for T1 lines in various public schools, but there's a ****load of unaccounted for moola it seems. ~26 years after AT&T's breakup, overall competition seems lacking. The new AT&T Inc., ignoring actual worth and in terms of the number of 'baby bell' offspring, is 50% of its former self. Has competition slowed enough to allow this sort of crap to happen? At what point do the antitrust laws kick in? Is this the case or am I also full of it?

Vulcan · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2006, 03:16:01 AM »

open source? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HA!

Delirium · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2006, 10:55:02 AM »

I find alot of fault in his arguments... sure Slovenia may be ahead of us, but they are rebuilding their infrastructure with modern day advances, where as we are often still using the same phone lines from the '50s.

What he wants would take a massive amount of money to put up new phone lines, more DSL stations, and an oversight group (one that has more teeth) to prevent price gouging.

Not going to happen...

Westy · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2006, 11:32:27 AM »

He's as far fetched as someone suggesting that the oil industry become open sourced. He really lost me when he claims, "The Internet is not a right, but it is becoming a necessity, like roads, water, and electricity. "

For man cannot live on streaming porn and eBay auctions alone.

texace · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2006, 11:48:36 AM »

A necessity? I can live without the Internet...and I bet I'll be able to do it when I'm old and all you folks are really old.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2006, 12:33:27 PM »

texace, at your age, you can live without everything ... except your right hand!

Krusher · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2006, 12:56:43 PM »

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Originally posted by xrtoronto
texace, at your age, you can live without everything ... except your right hand!

Now thats not fair, he could be ambidextrous

AWMac · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2006, 01:02:29 PM »

Thought the right hand was for typing, adjusting the webcam and using the mouse?

texace · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2006, 01:15:09 PM »

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Originally posted by xrtoronto
texace, at your age, you can live without everything ... except your right hand!

And if I lose that, I'll have to get creative.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2006, 01:59:31 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Thought the right hand was for typing, adjusting the webcam and using the mouse?

Octavius · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2006, 02:56:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Delirium
What he wants would take a massive amount of money to put up new phone lines, more DSL stations, and an oversight group (one that has more teeth) to prevent price gouging.

Del, what he's saying is that we've already paid for the improvements several times over and Ma Bell hasn't come through. I completely agree with Slovenia... massive rebuilding of infrastructure, especially construction post-WWII, but this seems to be a different case - it should have been done. I'd settle for a friggin pie chart of where that universal service fee and the other thousand fees have gone, aside from the well known public school and other usage.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2006, 06:23:53 PM »

I read an article that Google is quietly aquiring a coast to coast network of "dark fiber"

Basically "dark fiber" is fiber that was in the process of being installed accross the country but was halted after the dot com bust. Basically google would have it's own intardnet.

http://news.com.com/Google%20wants%20dark%20fiber/2100-1034_3-5537392.html

OOZ662 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2006, 12:51:38 AM »

You're getting this from a place that added an extra ".com" to their site, just to be sure.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2006, 08:46:28 AM »

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Originally posted by OOZ662
You're getting this from a place that added an extra ".com" to their site, just to be sure.

WEll google it if you'd like, I just picked the first link. Either way I read this on foxnews and MSNBC.

It's amazing how a search engine might become as powerful as Microsoft someday.

Vulcan · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2006, 01:33:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Basically google would have it's own intardnet.

Errrr no.

(it'd have its own core infrastructure)