Author Topic: Relaxation of Alcohol laws in UK results in FALL in crime (Read 909 times)

wipass · « **Reply #30 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:18:19 AM »

The real reason for the reduction in crime is that with closing times staggered over a city/town all of the drunks are going home at different times, there are just less people to fight with.

Previously all clubs kicked out at 2.00 am, consequently hundreds of drunk young men milled around and ended up fighting (and lots of women).

wipass

beet1e · « **Reply #31 on:** February 09, 2006, 05:26:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
99% of TV sucks, so its down to who has the least commercials.

In America, that 99% is the commercials.

I don't think the UK lager louts will be drinking more. They'd run out of money! In the town where I live, it's business as usual, with the odd extension. But that was always possible anyway. Before 24/7 drinking, if a pub was hosting a darts match, they'd get an hour's extension if they notified the police.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 09, 2006, 07:03:08 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
if a pub was hosting a darts match, they'd get an hour's extension if they notified the police.

The anticipation of such an event must be too much to take sometimes.

lazs2 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 09, 2006, 08:46:18 AM »

jackal you cretinous redneck! It is called "civilization".

learn to embrace the sports allowed you by your lords like darts and cricket... give up your evil firearms and gas guzzling V8's.... embrace public TV with it's rolicking adventures and dusted of carl "the prophet" sagan episodes.

You got to admit that old carl was right about life as we know it being destroyed if the sadman had lit even half the oil fields in kuwait on fire in the first gulf war.... we were sure lucky the sadman hadn't mastered fire yet.

Toad · « **Reply #34 on:** February 09, 2006, 09:37:00 AM »

A typical can of "Beetle's Best Red Herring".

The point of the old thread to which he alludes was that if banning guns to "save" a mere handful of "lives" was truly the point then it would follow that the Brits should ban alcohol to "save" tens of thousands of "lives".

Since Beet is quite unwilling to go along with banning anything that he PERSONALLY desires, he can't support banning alcohol to "save lives".

So it would seem that banning handguns isn't truly about "saving lives" at all, since there are a far greater number of lives waiting to be saved by banning alcohol. Lives lost to diseases like cirrhosis and lives lost to auto accidents involving alcohol as a causitive or contributive factor.

"Saving Lives" is really, really important UNLESS taking the necessary action would infringe on one of your own personal likes.

So have another helping of herring. I'll pass; he serves it all too often in my opinion.

Suave · « **Reply #35 on:** February 09, 2006, 09:49:05 AM »

I bet if you got rid of all the laws you wouldn't have any crime!

beet1e · « **Reply #36 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:41:44 AM »

ROFL Toad!

Do you dispute the claims that violent crime dropped by ~20% since 24 hour drinking was introduced in the UK? That's all I said! I made no mention of the G-word. *YOU* were the one who said that crime could be reduced if alcohol were banned. *I* was the one who expressed doubts, as this "experiment" had already been tried in two other countries c1920, and failed. Still, you're always welcome in my threads - you know that!

;)

Toad · « **Reply #37 on:** February 09, 2006, 11:39:48 AM »

Again, the previous discussion was about saving lives. This is just another can of red herring, as I pointed out.

Ta-ta.

texace · « **Reply #38 on:** February 09, 2006, 11:40:44 AM »

An interesting and enlightening discussion.

Lunch time...ta

beet1e · « **Reply #39 on:** February 09, 2006, 11:59:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Again, the previous discussion was about saving lives. This is just another can of red herring, as I pointed out.

No it's not. It's a statement from multiple police forces around the country: "Many police forces reported a drop in the number of alcohol-related arrests over Christmas." Why do you male-donkey-ume that one thread must be related to another?

Furball · « **Reply #40 on:** February 09, 2006, 12:29:47 PM »

hmm... this is ridiculous.

lets just ban cars and save THOUSANDS of lives...

beet1e · « **Reply #41 on:** February 09, 2006, 01:02:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
lets just ban cars and save THOUSANDS of lives...

No, as MY life was saved when I was driven to a hospital - in a CAR! - by an American woman LOL! And because my lifestyle is dependent on cars, we cannot possibly countenance such a proposal.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 09, 2006, 01:07:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
hmm... this is ridiculous.

lets just ban cars and save THOUSANDS of lives...

No, that would result in underground shops that produce illegal cars and have unlicensed, untrained people using cars and causing death and destruction.

texace · « **Reply #43 on:** February 09, 2006, 01:24:43 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
No, as MY life was saved when I was driven to a hospital - in a CAR! - by an American woman LOL! And because my lifestyle is dependent on cars, we cannot possibly countenance such a proposal.

You have a bicycle, don't you?

beet1e · « **Reply #44 on:** February 09, 2006, 01:37:17 PM »