Author Topic: iTunes (Read 487 times)

Tarmac · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2006, 06:53:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
BY LAW, you are allowed to make ONE Backup copy of a CD. The new "FBI Warning labels" are directed towards downloaders. The RIAA will even admit this, although, they don't mention it.

CD's are around 1100Kbs, there is a HUGE Difference in the sound quality on down to 128Kbs. You still CANNOT go wrong with buying CD's.

Karaya

Yes, but under the DMCA it is illegal to circumvent any copy protection. So you can make your fair use backup copy, but that's irrelevant if you're illegally bypassing the copy protection to do so. You're still doing something illegal.

eagl · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2006, 07:04:36 PM »

Tarmac hit the nail on the head. It's pretty much (IMHO) the fatal flaw in the entire DMCA. It means that you can NEVER actually buy something that has even token encryption. All you can ever really do according to US law is buy a license to listen/view the content in the manner specified by the seller/owner, and they can revoke that license at any time without notice with a simple mandatory software or firmware update, planned obscolescence such as a drop-dead player license, etc.

They could ROT-13 (simply adding 13 to every byte) encrypt something, and if you use anything but their player to "decrypt" it, you're a criminal in violation of the DMCA. Skylarov found this out the hard way after he broke Adobe's trivial ebook encryption and showed people how ineffective it was. The law says NOTHING about the encryption method's effectiveness, just that it's against the law to circumvent any encryption.

Rolex · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2006, 07:39:06 PM »

Just wondering about rental places because they've been around Japan as long as there have been CDs. You can rent CDs in many of the same stores you rent movie DVDs or videos.

Another huge frustration on the Vista horizon:

Yes, Trusted Computing is used for DRM

Nash · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2006, 08:41:25 PM »

Eagl,

I just read today that Sony settled some kind of lawsuit, the result being that if you bought any of these CDs you get your money back or are given money to download songs online. Something like that - I wasn't paying too much attention.

I'm not sure what you need to do to go about this, so I'd google it or something.

eagl · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2006, 08:56:47 PM »

The settlement requires a receipt or something like that, and really I don't want another cd. I want some sony execs to go to jail, just like any other hacker who did this to this many people.

The sony thing is so wrong on so many levels, it's hard to discuss it rationally. Sony denied it, then confirmed it. Then they lied about the first date they started doing it, but got caught in that lie. then they said they had the right to do it. Then they said they had a removal tool, but it killed the OS. Then they said they'd remove all of the rootkit CDs from stores, but a full month later major retailers were still selling rootkit version cds.

Like I'm going to give sony ANOTHER chance to infect my computer by swapping out the bad cd for one I can't verify is "clean" without sticking it in my computer, which would give it the chance to infect my computer again?

I want jail time for the hacker bastards that spread the rootkit and a massive cash fine against sony. I want to see that the laws apply to big corporations just as much as they do against the little guy (and old ladies) the RIAA has been intimidating and blackmailing. I think New York district attorney was working on this sort of lawsuit, but I haven't heard anything about it in months. Maybe he got bought off.

Nash · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2006, 10:35:12 PM »

Ayup.

This settlement struck me as being very lame.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2006, 11:24:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Tarmac
Yes, but under the DMCA it is illegal to circumvent any copy protection. So you can make your fair use backup copy, but that's irrelevant if you're illegally bypassing the copy protection to do so. You're still doing something illegal.

I do not own a Copyright Protected disc. I am abiding and sticking to the laws granted to me by the RIAA. I do NOT have a de-crypter of any kind.

Karaya

Vulcan · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2006, 02:40:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
BY LAW, you are allowed to make ONE Backup copy of a CD. The new "FBI Warning labels" are directed towards downloaders. The RIAA will even admit this, although, they don't mention it.

CD's are around 1100Kbs, there is a HUGE Difference in the sound quality on down to 128Kbs. You still CANNOT go wrong with buying CD's.

Karaya

Comparing uncompressed audio bitrates with compressed bitrates is something a chick might try, theres no logic in it at all... with that train of thought one could justify audio casettes as superior quality.

(ps itunes is a virus)

Tarmac · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2006, 02:57:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
the laws granted to me by the RIAA.

heh, I couldn't have said it more ironically myself.