Author Topic: So is Venezuela going to be our next "Iraq"? (Read 638 times)

StarOfAfrica2 · « **on:** February 20, 2006, 08:39:53 PM »

Now, when I first read the story about Chavez giving his "dont mess with me" speech aimed at Condoleeza Rice, I laughed. I take the guy seriously and all, but he's a big showman. Now we get these embassy officials being tossed out of the country............

Anyway, some folks are thinking its serious enough for action.
They have used the words "danger to the US". Isnt that what they said about Saddam?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11461593/

eagl · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2006, 08:49:04 PM »

Unless he takes some direct action, the worst he can do is cut off oil export to the US. Other countries would welcome the chance to buy, and it would force us to find another source since we do import quite a bit of oil from there.

But that's an economic threat more than a security thing and if he did wage economic war on the US in that fashion, it would probably backfire. In addition to providing real world support to Pres Bush's alternative energy "message", we have a whole lot of "measures other than war" that would make it much more costly to Venezuela than to us.

Of course, with a massively divided congress it's not likely we'll have a unified response to any action by Venezuela. That'll hurt more than anything Chavez could possibly do to us.

SuperDud · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2006, 08:53:22 PM »

I say just get it over with. Nuke everything and turn this place into an ice palace! The world as a whole has just gone stupid IMO:cool:

Maverick · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2006, 09:10:53 PM »

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Originally posted by SuperDud
I say just get it over with. Nuke everything and turn this place into an ice palace! The world as a whole has just gone stupid IMO:cool:

Feel free to leave at any time. I for one would like to stick around and your preference is unacceptable.

As to the latest grandstanding by chavez, it's far too early to go into panic mode. The more attention he can direct at the US the less than will be directed at his own domestic problems.

dmf · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2006, 09:22:29 PM »

Just send my ex down there and watch him drive Chavez to the breaking point.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2006, 11:15:25 PM »

Why, is Chavez gay?

Bodhi · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2006, 11:52:27 PM »

Any type of economic warfare that Chavez hopes to wage will backfire on the economic scale but gain rapid ground on the political scale as he will try to say the US is bullying him into whatever he tries to push.

tedrbr · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:21:10 AM »

YES, Venezuela is going to be the next Iraq.
Iraq is going to be the next Iran.
Iran is going to be the next Cuba.
Pakistan and Indonesia are both vying to be the next Afghanistan.
Latin America is going to be the next Communist Block.
China is going to be the next Soviet Union.
North Korea is just going to remain the rabid Pomeranian they've always been.
Palestine is going to take parliamentary politics to a whole new level of "cutthroat" and "explosive debate". ("You vote against me?!" Ka-Boom!)
Israel is going to add minefields and a moat to the planned wall they're building.
The CIA created bird flu, since their creating AIDS did not work as well as expected.
Poncho Villa is alive and well in Mexico and up to his old tricks.
General Pershing is well and truly dead.
Mexican military incursions into United States territory do not rate any mention during the State of the Union Address.
The State Department wants to give The Three Stooges and Monte Python both a run fer der money.
And John Stewart should have enough fodder from the last 2 years for another book by now.

Don't YOU feel safer today than you did after 9/11.

Any wonder why I question just What the heck my men and I were supposed to be accomplishing in Iraq for over a year..... bah!

Thrawn · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:44:04 AM »

Chavez has been going on this "America hates me!" thing for awhile now. I get the feeling that he wants to play the persecuted martyr because it makes him feel important.

Sandman · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:50:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Chavez has been going on this "America hates me!" thing for awhile now. I get the feeling that he wants to play the persecuted martyr because it makes him feel important.

...and funny enough, we don't hate Venezuela.

We hate Canada.

Nash · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:51:29 AM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr
YES, Venezuela is going to be the next Iraq.
Iraq is going to be the next Iran.
Iran is going to be the next Cuba.
Pakistan and Indonesia are both vying to be the next Afghanistan.
Latin America is going to be the next Communist Block.
China is going to be the next Soviet Union.
North Korea is just going to remain the rabid Pomeranian they've always been.
Palestine is going to take parliamentary politics to a whole new level of "cutthroat" and "explosive debate". ("You vote against me?!" Ka-Boom!)
Israel is going to add minefields and a moat to the planned wall they're building.
The CIA created bird flu, since their creating AIDS did not work as well as expected.
Poncho Villa is alive and well in Mexico and up to his old tricks.
General Pershing is well and truly dead.
Mexican military incursions into United States territory do not rate any mention during the State of the Union Address.
The State Department wants to give The Three Stooges and Monte Python both a run fer der money.
And John Stewart should have enough fodder from the last 2 years for another book by now.

Don't YOU feel safer today than you did after 9/11.

Any wonder why I question just What the heck my men and I were supposed to be accomplishing in Iraq for over a year..... bah!

LMAO.

Two thumbs up. Way up.

Thrawn · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:09:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
...and funny enough, we don't hate Venezuela.

We hate Canada.

Yeah well...who doesn't.

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:17:51 AM »

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Originally posted by SuperDud
I say just get it over with. Nuke everything and turn this place into an ice palace! The world as a whole has just gone stupid IMO:cool:

HEY stop stealing my lines!11

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:20:14 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by tedrbr
YES, Venezuela is going to be the next Iraq.
Iraq is going to be the next Iran.
Iran is going to be the next Cuba.
Pakistan and Indonesia are both vying to be the next Afghanistan.
Latin America is going to be the next Communist Block.
China is going to be the next Soviet Union.
North Korea is just going to remain the rabid Pomeranian they've always been.
Palestine is going to take parliamentary politics to a whole new level of "cutthroat" and "explosive debate". ("You vote against me?!" Ka-Boom!)
Israel is going to add minefields and a moat to the planned wall they're building.
The CIA created bird flu, since their creating AIDS did not work as well as expected.
Poncho Villa is alive and well in Mexico and up to his old tricks.
General Pershing is well and truly dead.
Mexican military incursions into United States territory do not rate any mention during the State of the Union Address.
The State Department wants to give The Three Stooges and Monte Python both a run fer der money.
And John Stewart should have enough fodder from the last 2 years for another book by now.

Don't YOU feel safer today than you did after 9/11.

Any wonder why I question just What the heck my men and I were supposed to be accomplishing in Iraq for over a year..... bah!

two more thumbs up

Suave · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:47:43 AM »

Nigeria will be in the news a lot in the not too distant future. I'm writing this here so that I will have "I told you so" privledges later.