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Offline Pei

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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2006, 10:07:38 PM »
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This would be more interesting if Estel's claim was supported by facts and/or references.


These are not the driods you are looking for. You may go about your business.
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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2006, 10:42:46 PM »
We've got one that can see!

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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2006, 10:53:34 PM »
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Google confirmed disabling video materials from Iraq for USA users after goverment request.....



So, so, so..... Were is your freedom of speach and other "democracy" toys?



Where is your source?
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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2006, 11:17:17 PM »
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Where is your source?


Good question, I would be interested in seeing it.

Here is what I found:

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17 sec - Oct 25, 2004
"Detonation of Improvised Explosive Device used against Coalition forces. We found this one before they could use it against us."

 Instead of a video playing, a message appears, stating:

"This video is not playable in your country."

In your country? My country is the United States of America! This is a standard Cox Communications cable connection located in Virginia, USA. Checks with several friends indicate that this "not available" message is showing up in the United States, but friends in Canada and South America are able to view the video. Military operations are certainly a point of controversy right now, but I would expect Google to present all available information within our democratic borders. Is Google censoring information in the United States?

Update: There are more of these censored videos.

Update 2: NO CENSORSHIP. Google has clarified its message. The “not available” message has changed to:

“We’re sorry, but the provider of this video, not Google, has chosen to disable playback in your location.”

Uploaders have the option of choosing which countries they want having access to their videos. These partuicular videos were blocked for viewing in the USA by the person who uploaded them. Thanks for setting the record straight, Google.

I understand licensing issues can complicate content distribution, but the vast majority of videos uploaded to video.google.com don’t need the option to block countries. Why would Google create a giant library of content which is only partly viewable? Furthermore, why show blocked content in search results? That just frustrates users.

 


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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2006, 02:37:15 AM »
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A poster can block access to domains from countries they specify? What is the logic in that?


Plenty, learn more about int'l law and the net.
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« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2006, 03:42:19 AM »
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Plenty, learn more about int'l law and the net.


An answer is more useful then a wiseass remark.
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« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2006, 07:42:39 AM »
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Just because google isn't covering dosn't mean you can't get it. There is more than one place to get information. The New York Times dosn't cover porno, but I have heard you can get it online :)


Makes me wonder. Why were your regimes (and still are) so worried about so-called "freedom of speech" and "freedom of information" in USSR and Russia, when we can find anything on the Internet or a short-wave radio?
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« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2006, 07:44:36 AM »
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Yes, we are so far worse then any other censored nation. Instead of killing and torturing those who say something we dont like we tell them to shut up. Oh the horror!!! :eek:


Really, you mean you only tell them to shut up?

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« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2006, 07:47:20 AM »
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Google is a business. They are free to censor whatever they like.


This is exactly what I meant when I said that cometimes "business" censorship is more dangerous then political/military.

There is no such thing as a "free press".
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« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2006, 07:58:38 AM »
boroda... what you are missing in the whole capitalist deal is.... if google doesn't play it and enough Americans want to see it....

somebody else will and, make a buck on it.  

Short wave radio and the internet?  LOL... if your criminal regime hadn't collapsed you would have never seen the internet and if you had got caught with a short wave radio listening to say radio free America you woulda been in siberia and your family would have been wondering what happpened to you (silently wondering that is)

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« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2006, 08:16:55 AM »
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Short wave radio and the internet?  LOL... if your criminal regime hadn't collapsed you would have never seen the internet and if you had got caught with a short wave radio listening to say radio free America you woulda been in siberia and your family would have been wondering what happpened to you (silently wondering that is)


LOL! Going to Siberia for listening to the radio - it's incredible.

Every time you guys start to explain us about how we lived in USSR - you are really funny.

About "making a buck" on information: how many sources do you have in the US that were translated from Soviet publications? The problem is not only in censorship, it's in artificially decreasing interest and demand for alternative information sources, and IMHO it's more important. I hope you understand what I mean. We have a similar problem emerging in modern Russia, but it will take a long time until our generation will be worn out so we'll be unable to keep interest on a nessessaty level. I mean - it's in our hands now, we can do something to keep people interested in something else then sexual life of Britney Spears.
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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2006, 08:25:20 AM »
so boroda... you were free to listen to anything you wanted or read anything you wanted in soviet russia?

As for not having things here translated from russian to english and available....  Huh?   there is no demand...  not censored... not unavailable...  just no demand.

I bet I can get any info translated that I want.   If any of it was remotely interesting or worthwhile.... someone would be doing it.

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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2006, 08:38:34 AM »
Skuzzy,

There is a big difference in Google censoring and the goverment telling google to censoring.

Same as there is a huge difference between a news broadcaster choosing what news to cover (and what not to cover) and the government telling a news boarcaster what news to cover (and not cover).

Free media shouldnt be influeced by the government because then it aint free media anymroe. Google is a media.

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« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2006, 08:47:13 AM »
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Free media shouldnt be influeced by the government because then it aint free media anymroe. Google is a media.


What's the difference between government and some financial/political/corporate structure that controls the above-mentioned media?

In some cases I'd prefer government control. More to say, I'd like to see more government control over media in Russia now. But only in case whe it is a government with certain "political will", not what we have now, when govt can't get rid of some parasitic Siamese twins.
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« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2006, 08:50:05 AM »
Why would you trust the government to control what you seen or read or could say?

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