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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2006, 06:18:32 AM »
15 seconds=50mb :eek:

I have 15s of boring footage of a parrot sitting on a bird feeder at the bottom of my garden.  Not very interesting.  I'll put together 5s of aircraft, 5s of parrot and 5s of time lapse Antarctica and upload it sometime today.

Oh and I'll second the recommendation for Ulead Videostudio.  Its very good and pretty much all I use for editting.

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« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2006, 04:50:06 PM »
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Can you find this in print or on a manufacture’s site anywhere?
I looked all over several manufactures’ sites and only one indicated movie image size, and it was 320x240.  With the Canon that I almost bought, I asked to see the owner’s manual at the store; the information was buried but indicated 320x240.  My school’s Canon Elura that I tested downloaded to the PC via FireWire at 320x240. I want to believe you, but I’d like to see reputable proof.  I still find it hard to believe that the genre of camcorders could be based on such a small image resolution, but I’ve yet to see different.

As far as flash media goes, $40 will buy you a one gig card at Staples or Office Max that’s reusable 1,000,000 times.  $22 will buy you 8 one hour MiniDv tapes at Sam’s Club.  The flash card can download to a PC in few minutes without tying up the camera.  The clips are organized into neat ready to edit or upload files.  The MiniDv tapes are a good deal, but it takes a long time to download a tape and then you have to search for the part you want.  If I were going on a big trip without a computer to download to, I might want the tapes.  Most of what I do, however, is only a few seconds or minutes and then it’s on the PC.

Most importantly, I would insist on seeing a clip shot by the type of camera I was interested in buying.

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 I will search around, but I do not think they can claim to use the DV standard and not capture at 720 by 480 on NTSC video.

Your right though no one would want to use a video cam at 320 by 240.

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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2006, 05:24:34 PM »
A couple of weeks ago I hooked our school’s Canon Elura directly into my 1024 projector.  The image looked pretty decent; better than I would expect possible from 320x240.  But then again, that’s all I could get from the Firewire into my home PC.  Perhaps I missed something in the transfer using Windows Movie Maker.  But then again, the cheaper Canon that I almost bought said in the manual that the images were 320x240.  I just don’t know, but I would like for someone to prove it either way.

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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2006, 05:28:36 PM »
Eskimo
 Your right the cam makers do not list much on this.

I did find this though.

  MiniDV Recording
Offers up to 500 lines of horizontal resolution, 3X the color bandwidth and a significantly higher signal/noise ratio, to provide spectacular video performance.

Thats from a sony DV cam on their site.

540 Lines of Resolution
Thats from a higher end Canon eluras spec.



I think the cam makers do not list the capture rez because listing DV cam says it all.

It is a standard.

Try doing a search on DV standard video and you will find tons of info on it. I do not think they can claim the cam is a "DV" cam if it does not capture at 720x480.

Or find a camcorder forum and ask.

I am so sure I am right I would bet on it.

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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2006, 05:30:43 PM »
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A couple of weeks ago I hooked our school’s Canon Elura directly into my 1024 projector.  The image looked pretty decent; better than I would expect possible from 320x240.  But then again, that’s all I could get from the Firewire into my home PC.  Perhaps I missed something in the transfer using Windows Movie Maker.  But then again, the cheaper Canon that I almost bought said in the manual that the images were 320x240.  I just don’t know, but I would like for someone to prove it either way.

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I have a cheap canon myself and I know the video coming over firewire is 720by480.

Your sure you used firewire and not USB?

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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2006, 05:41:27 PM »
At one point I was pretty excited about this thing:



"SC-X105L
MPEG4 Sports Camcorder
 
Samsung's MPEG4 Sports Camcorder offers the ability to capture those thrilling moments. Whether you're snow boarding or skiing you can capture the moment with the remote lens. "



Then I read the reviews:  The non-partial reviewers all said it’s a piece of crap and takes lousy movies.  I still like the concept and would love to have a camera in my pocket with an image sensor and lens on a cord clipped to my collar or whatever.  I doesn’t matter how great the concept is though, the didn’t pull it off technically.  

Meanwhile I’ll just continue to go kayaking with my old Canon S-400 Elph tucked between my neck and lifejacket.  One of these days I should make some sort of a Velcro strap for just that.

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« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2006, 05:43:03 PM »
I would not touch anything that captures in MPEG of any kind. It is a ****y format to edit.


It is a ****ty format to capture in.

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« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2006, 05:45:11 PM »
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I have a cheap canon myself and I know the video coming over firewire is 720by480.

Your sure you used firewire and not USB?


Yea, I hooked it into a FireWire that I bought for that purpose.  I probably didn't look beyond the default 320x240 setting in Windows Movie Maker when I went to "Capture".

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« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2006, 05:48:15 PM »
Send me an email at gtora2@gmail.com would ya?