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Offline bj229r

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« Reply #105 on: March 03, 2006, 09:03:33 AM »
Al Qaeda blows up Sunni mosque, next day Al Qaeda blows up sh *****e mosque..NEXT day media says there is a civil war, which is the goal Al Qaeda is striving for.....dupes.
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« Reply #106 on: March 03, 2006, 01:26:49 PM »
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Your being facetious. That's rude.


No I'm not.


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In our language today recycle would be a word more readily absorbed as a word for observable reincarnation.



Why, ever seen one happen?  The only thing observable is people claiming to be reincarnated.

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« Reply #107 on: March 03, 2006, 01:56:37 PM »
Hi Suave,

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Reincarnation, as well as karma are observable. The problem isn't reincarnation, it's that people misunderstood this to mean an unobservable type of reincarnation. We all become different living creatures after we die, that's an observable fact.


Buddhism is based mainly on the teachings of the Guatama Buddha which were passed down by oral tradition and then codified in the Tripitaka. Now, I will admit that I never finished reading through the Tripitaka (at the time I was more fond of the Hindu Vedas) but nothing I had ever read in Buddha's teachings would indicate that he was anywhere close to being a scientific materialist. Basically, his metaphysic breaks down into the following (any Buddhists on the board can feel free to correct me)

All life is suffering, this suffering is caused because of our attachment to self or soul, or our "separateness" from everything, our ultimate objective is to become one with everything, a condition known as Nirvana. Until we reach this state, we are locked in a constant cycle of birth and death and rebirth, in which we keep coming back. The principle of Karma states that our actions in these lives have consequences good and bad and that these consequences may manifest themselves in this life or our actions in a previous life may have consequences that are only realized in future lives.

In any event, this is not a recycling of matter or energy, it is really you, the eternal soul that goes on from life to life. That according to Buddha is the problem, that cycle will continue until you learn to cease to be you.

Buddhist schools are split on the question of whether reality is real or an illusion, most Theravadans believe in the existence of the world and consciousness, while most Mahayana Buddhists believe that everything that we perceive is false.

Anyway, Buddhism is not an objective science based on observable phonomena and repeatable experiments, it is a faith.

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« Reply #108 on: March 03, 2006, 03:52:18 PM »
Speaking of Buddhism, I find it odd that the story of Gautama Buddha was not put into print until about 400 years after he allegedly died.  They say that this was because it was "too sacred" to put on paper.  Personally because I think it was actually because the whole story was a legend.  He is tied as a son to a real king in India, but there doesn't seem to be any special historical records about that king's kids.  Given what Siddharta allegdly did (ditched the whole kingdom thing and founded a huge religion), I would think there would be some outside mention of it.  So my feeling is that Buddha is as historical as the Krishna of the Mahabharata or the Rama of the Ramayana.

Still, Buddhism is a pretty great religion.  No killing or empire building on its behalf, that I know of.