Something for bombers...

[Delirium]

Something for bombers to hit, besides FHs.

'Nuff said...

[BlueJ1]

Agreed. Will get fighter jocks off our back for hitting FHs and ruining their fun.

[Hoarach]

That would be asking to much.

Knights last night ran 2 large buff raids on A9.  First one I discovered wondering why there was a large dar bar and found at least 15-20 boxes of buffs with many 51 escort planes.  Ended up being one of the only ones that went against this force and I at the time was in a jet.  They ended up flattening 9.  They ended up taking the base but we took it right back while ostys camping their field (got 18 in my osty camping them in their take off hanger ).  

A hour or two later, knights do the same exact thing.  Except this time they brought more buffs and more escorts.  We had a little bit more rooks to meet them but to now avail they hurt 9 pretty bad again.  

Didnt help either that each time these buffs were so close together that trying to attack them is stupid as them lazer guns can hit anything.  

Thought it was odd as well on the second wave they did, I sat behind a 24 and sprayed 200 rounds from a nik into the dead 6 of a 24.  As he takes off my tail after I put 200 rounds in that I find that not a single thing of damage was put on the 24.  Find it a little rediculous that putting 200 rounds from a nik put no damage into that 24.

[Saxman]

You mean guys were actually using Buffs the way they were designed to be flown? Not jabboing from Lancasters?!

[Delirium]

Prime example... I log on at 1am est to the MA. I fight for a bit, and the FH get killed. I up 5 minutes later when one of them comes up, and the map resets.

On the next map, I flew for about an hour... in that time, the FH were killed 3 times.

I do have some sympathy, the buff dweebs something to do... HQ is too hard and too well defended and stat targets are a waste of time. They are simply hitting the one thing that affects gameplay, but it affects it in a negative way.

Sure, sure.. they are only down for 15 minutes, but in that time the fight usually turns into a vulch which equates to a dead fight.

I'd say either change the number of planes that can up from a FH damaged/destroyed field, increase hanger hardness, or lower the regen time on hangers to sub-10 minutes.

edit: or put a wind layer at 7k to limit the 20k+ buffs from killing a field.

[KTM520guy]

Or...the fighter hangers should be indestructible.

Or...all the bombers should be removed from the game.

Or...we should just live with it because it's the way HTC wants it.

[Rino]

Yeah, we should let the bomber kiddies pee in someone else's pool
without comment..might hurt their feelings or something.

[RAIDER14]

20k+ buffs from killing a field.

why 20k? I fly at 30k in B-24's

[Kurt]

Originally posted by Hoarach
That would be asking to much.

 I sat behind a 24 and sprayed 200 rounds from a nik into the dead 6 of a 24.  As he takes off my tail after I put 200 rounds in that I find that not a single thing of damage was put on the 24.  Find it a little rediculous that putting 200 rounds from a nik put no damage into that 24.

If thats your normal attack against bombers you should prepare to spend a lot of time coming down without your airplane.

The cold hard fact is that B24's are durable planes, and shooting the back of the fuselage isn't going to hurt him much.  The other cold hard fact is that 18x .50's (the 6 guns facing aft times 3 planes in the formation) do more damage than your 4 20mm's.  You lost fair and square because you sat on his tail and prayed for the best.

B24's go down nice and easy if you concentrate your fire on the inboard engine on either side.  The wing will shear off quickly.  A spit 9 can do it so I'm quite certain a nik can.

But never sit right in that cone of fire on the tail of any bomber, its suicide.

[Hoarach]

I usually attack from the high clocks usually 4-8 clock high and occasional low 12.  But I aimed at the inboard engine.  I didnt expect to live anyways as the buffs were close together.  But when spray 200 at the inboard engine and no damage I think something wrong with that picture.

[viper215]

Originally posted by Delirium
Something for bombers to hit, besides FHs.

'Nuff said...

BH, VH ord troops radar strat town hq cv VH bace a port ack guns trees planes takeing off gvs support ships fuel bunkers resupply trains-convoys? we have enough.

[BlueJ1]

Originally posted by viper215
BH, VH ord troops radar strat town hq cv VH bace a port ack guns trees planes takeing off gvs support ships fuel bunkers resupply trains-convoys? we have enough.

None of the above are worth while/ Oh and bomb vulching, that would go over real well on a grand scale.

[viper215]

I have done it:D
hey you cant lose ifthe other guy dont have a chance.

[Kurt]

Bombers Bombers Bombers..

And the cry babies get deeper and deeper

Remember the old strat when Bombers could hurt the whole area by taking down the fuel strat?  No... you don't remember that because you're a new cry baby.

Oh for the hay day of bombers in AH... When you could make a difference.  When you could hit a strat fuel and pork fuel to the whole region... Those are the days I miss.  Back when being a solid bomber pilot meant something.

Today you cry because your FH is down for 15 minutes...  Oh, WOE ON TO YOU!  What true pity to suffer for 15 minutes.   It wasn't that long ago a bomber could pork your fuel for hours.

If you ask me, that is how it should be.  Bombers were a SERIOUS threat in WWII.  They could set you back by YEARS.  But in AH today they are nothing more then an annoyance.

So, to all you bomber hating cry babies... STFU.  I wish WISH that hitech would let me release the fire I with which I used to be able to shut down your show... I would love for old strat to come back.

You don't know what pain is.  Having your hanger down for 15 minutes was nothing in the face of having your fuel supply at 25% for a couple hours.

It just goes to show (Hitech, read this part) that no matter how easy you make the game, some freakin cry baby will show up to moan about it.

Give me OLD MA with meaningful strat...   And give me OLD DA with KOTH!

Buff Dweeb here?  No.. I'll be happy to duel in a single engine... But Buff's have a place in this game and its been degraded far enough.

[Delirium]

Kurt, I tried to be as cordial as possible but instead, you have to flame.

1. I've been here a long time, I flew under a different name... trying to think of a date, but it was definitely before Chogs were perked, and 205s were everywhere.

2. Yep, i remember the fuel damage... so negatively affected gameplay it was changed. FH destruction may change too...

3. This is a game... not all of us 'get off' by killing the same stuff that available to egg offline, but by going after human opponents. When is the last time you saw a Toolshed or a You  from a Toolshed?

4. How much can HTC make the game easy? You tell me... instead of leave the complicated bomb site in place, they replaced it with the easy, no work bomb site. Some guys have spent years (including myself) to learn ACM, why bother when a 10 minute practice in a buff can own the arena?

Kurt, never once did I flame the bomber pilots... like I said, i have some sympathy because they have so few targets that haven't been hardened beyond belief and the stat system is broken.

Go flame someone else... this is a wishlist.