Author Topic: Interesting clip from Al-Jazeera (Read 2197 times)

Edbert · « **Reply #30 on:** March 18, 2006, 08:52:14 AM »

Salman Rushdie just took his deepest breath in 25 years.

Fishu · « **Reply #31 on:** March 18, 2006, 06:27:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
"She went on, "We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people." "

never even read the whole thing but that is a silly statment.

Not really...
Germans killed alot of jews, but what did jews do to germans? Nothing violent.
What does the muslim world do when someone draws cartoons of Muhammed? Burn down embassies and kill people.

Which of them has more influence on the western powers?
Which one is losing even the little influence they have?

Staga · « **Reply #32 on:** March 18, 2006, 07:09:55 PM »

Israeli Jews have been attacking Mosques and murdering Palestinians and vice versa; it's naive to think jews haven't killed (innocent) people.

Fishu · « **Reply #33 on:** March 18, 2006, 10:17:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
Israeli Jews have been attacking Mosques and murdering Palestinians and vice versa; it's naive to think jews haven't killed (innocent) people.

Hardly the same as with muslims though.
Jews might be taking out palestinians with heavy weapons, but they don't just go and blow up civilians because they don't like palestinians.
They didn't have a problem before the war though.

Edbert · « **Reply #34 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:54:04 AM »

History shows that for 100 years plus there was a significant amount of what would now be called "terrorism" committed in the name of zionism in the middle east. Much of it was directed at the occupying British, but there were dozens (probably hundreds) of cases where it was directed at Muslims/Palestinians too. This insurgency was one of the main reasons the British left and championed the creation of a state via the UN. But after 1948 all the activity taken by the Israelis against the arabs is clearly NOT terrorism (IMHO), but a matter of a state defending itself.

I also wanted to voice agreement with those who say this lady will get little to no traction with the muslim faithful. She is an avowed atheist, it would be useful if someone said those kinds of things and supported them with words from the koran. But the faithful will ignore any attempts by an atheist to sway their opinion on matters of faith.

Staga · « **Reply #35 on:** March 19, 2006, 11:04:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Hardly the same as with muslims though.
Jews might be taking out palestinians with heavy weapons, but they don't just go and blow up civilians because they don't like palestinians.
They didn't have a problem before the war though.

Would entering a mosque with an assault rifle and recklessy shooting anything that moves be enough ?

Staga · « **Reply #36 on:** March 19, 2006, 11:15:40 AM »

interesting reading:
http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0694/9406008.htm

FiLtH · « **Reply #37 on:** March 19, 2006, 11:22:05 AM »

Id like to see the complete interview. I enjoyed that. She is to be commended.

Yeager · « **Reply #38 on:** March 19, 2006, 12:56:15 PM »

Staga, jews, acting on their own, have done things that are wicked and evil...no doubt.

But I have yet to hear of a jew, or a christian for that matter, blowing himself up to kill women and children. Maybe it has happened but I havent heard about it.......have you heard of a christian or jew blowing themselves up to kill women and children?

Btw staga, you ever get a name of an innocent american wrongly executed in the united states since the death penalty was reinstated?

Staga · « **Reply #39 on:** March 19, 2006, 01:05:48 PM »

Yeager; I told you earlier you should learn how to use Google:

http://capitaldefenseweekly.com/25casesdraft.html
http://www.justicedenied.org/executed.htm
http://www.law.duke.edu/journals/lcp/articles/lcp61dAutumn1998p105.htm

lada · « **Reply #40 on:** March 19, 2006, 01:39:00 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
"Syrian-American psychiatrist living outside Los Angeles"

lol whats odd about it... ?

Im [lol it was wrong bloody history) Roman Empire - Czech living outside Pakomerice

Thrawn · « **Reply #41 on:** March 19, 2006, 02:16:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Wolfala
LOS ANGELES, March 10 — Three weeks ago, Dr. Wafa Sultan was a largely unknown Syrian-American psychiatrist living outside Los Angeles, nursing a deep anger and despair about her fellow Muslims.

Fellow Muslims? She's not a muslim, says so herself.

I don't get what the story is here. American ex-muslim thinks Islam sucks? So what?

lada · « **Reply #42 on:** March 19, 2006, 02:23:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Not really...
Germans killed alot of jews, but what did jews do to germans? Nothing violent.

SH also did nothing voilent to US did he ?

Well first of all germans were not first who attempted to annihilate or restrict jews in the Europe.
Genocides agains jews came to central europe with Judaism.
There was nothing wrong with them, it was just typical "problem," that they manage to create sooner or later.
Typical pre-war german argument which describe it.
"Look how many % of population in Berlin are jews. Now look how many % of lawyers are jews."

You can say, that jews didnt do nothing voilent to german... ummm yes... but voilence is not the only one way how to hurt people is it ?

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Originally posted by Fishu

What does the muslim world do when someone draws cartoons of Muhammed? Burn down embassies and kill people.

They go out and express their feelings... we call it freedom. If they clash with police and some of them get killed, its up to investigators to find out what has happen and who caused sutch things. Anyway if you would like to find some bloodthirsty christians, you can find plenty of them http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/118/32.0.html .
I guess we can agree that way, how people behave is not strictly related to religion.
Its not quite exact to say, that A-Bomb has been used by christians to kill as much civilist as possible. Is it ?

Thrawn · « **Reply #43 on:** March 19, 2006, 02:32:26 PM »

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Originally posted by lada
You can say, that jews didnt do nothing voilent to german... ummm yes... but voilence is not the only one way how to hurt people is it ?

Then how exactly did the jews "hurt" pre-WW2 gentile Germans?

Yeager · « **Reply #44 on:** March 19, 2006, 02:37:23 PM »

Staga, none of those links provided the name of a single person proven wrongfully executed. There were half a dozen cases where arguments could have been made to commute the sentance to life due to questionable law enforcement procedural errors, but nothing to prove a innocent person was executed.

If you can ever come up with a name that has been proven wrongfully executed in the US since the death penalty was re-instated in 1977, I would love to see it.