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Offline Softail

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« on: March 07, 2006, 09:46:38 PM »
Ok .. in my pursuit to get better bomber rankings I must ask.   Whiskey Tango Foxtrot...OVER!    I have been focusing on my gunnery which has improved a lot.   I try to make every bomb count .. 1 target....3 bombs is my new motto.  (I fly in formations all the time)

However I must say for as much as I have improved I am very disappointed in my ranking.  Adding to that utter confusion on exactly HOW this game ranks bombers.    I guess my strategy is wrong or something.  Explain the following stats to me please.     I went into the scores and pulled mine and the guy who is currently number two.    


                            Me                 /                some other guy

Damage/Deaths  93340.89803       (101)       /   430597.80087   (19)
Damage/Sorties  31113.63267       (137)       /  114826.10663   (18)
Hit Percentage    260.652%      (151)       /   760.494            (18)
Points                3360272.32859     (9)           /  3444783.19892  (6)
Field Captures    0                           (2389)     /   1                      (171)




Kills        29   /   5
Assists                      2   /   0
Sorties      108   /   30
Landed      73   /   22
Bailed      4   /   2
Ditched      0   /   1
Captured                    1   /   0
Death      30   /   5
Disco      0   /   0
Time      18:14:17   /             06:11:43

Rank:                             127     /              2


So can someone explain to me how you can get a hit rate of 760%?
What is the most important stat to focus on?
What bomb load would yield this? ( I carry 8x1000 in 24s primarily)
Is this an example of "Strat" bombing?

I fly into the thick of things, bomb fields and towns and provide support for the taking of bases.   It appears as though that approach is the "wrong" approach and not rewarded very well by the game.   Both stats are proportioned pretty close except for the Damage so to me this appears as an individual who primarily bombs undefended (or lightly defened) strats.  Add to that the very FEW missions flown in comparison it baffles me that this is not calculated in the rank.  

Its like comparing the batting average of a guy who has played all season to a guy whos only played a couple of months.   Sure he hit better...but can he maintain that performance?  Or did he just step up to bat...crush one outta the park and then dont bat again to keep the 1.000 batting average?

I am open to suggestions for improvement.

Thanks.

Softail
« Last Edit: March 07, 2006, 09:48:53 PM by Softail »

Offline wetrat

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2006, 09:52:56 PM »
the scoring system's been disected many times... try doing a search.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2006, 09:58:19 PM »
Get some field captures, that helps big time.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2006, 10:02:59 PM »
actually I tried that....focused on capturing fields.  But look at the stats...he has 1 (one) only one more.  It has to be something different.

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2006, 10:08:36 PM »
okay   short verison


1. if after rank only then bomb only strats.
2. fly high 25k to 30k use only 1k bombs or bigger,harder to kill 30k bombers than 5k
3. hit only radar strat or City strats  these will give you biggest hit %
4. land sorties and don't drop bombs unless calibration on
5. you need about 4 c47 captures.



  That simple. Every time you bomb a gv hit% goes down. Every time you get shot down damage to death goes down. Every time your 3 bombs hit only 1 target your hit % goes way down.



 now guys like XXXXXXX and other s who go for hit%  will usally wait untill near a strat that is behind thier lines and use A ju87   1800kg bomb or lanc's 4k and only drop 4k bomb  that will give you a hit % over 2000%
all you do is land rearm do this till strats dead and  hit% damage to death , damage per sortie go thru roof.


 Now with all that said Going for Rank is boring and will only mean something to you or newbies. Most know you can milk rank in everything  including fighter if you want to be dweeb like some and kill 2nd accounts.
So unless your going for lower rank so u can turn cv's as friends take off or land , go back to bombing everything and have FUN.

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2006, 10:21:04 PM »
ok rank is simple for bombing just plane bpmb peroid kills dont help you that much just bomb and take bases and youll have a good rank in no time the bombing is based on points so the points you have the lower rank you will have also capturing bases cuts rank in half. bob towns and factories thoughs are the best to bomb for points soooooo just bomb the more factories you kill the lower your rank will be very simple. bombing is the easiest thing.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2006, 10:32:45 PM »
Well...if THATS what it takes .... forget it.   Seems a shame that the game would reward that "style" of play.   It sounds like one can game the game.

I might experiment with it here and there but a steady diet of that would be a yawn fest.   Besides I can't resist bombing an airfield and trolling a fighter up to me and playing possum ;-)    

I hate you experienced guys that know how to attack from above...I still haven't figured out the gun solution for that one....but I am getting closer.

Thanks for the info.

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2006, 10:35:36 PM »
I dropped an 1800kg bomb on a Grunt Training strat once and got a 2400% hit. Thats the highest I've ever gotten.

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2006, 10:41:16 PM »
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Originally posted by rod367th
okay   short verison





 Now with all that said Going for Rank is boring and will only mean something to you or newbies. Most know you can milk rank in everything  including fighter if you want to be dweeb like some and kill 2nd accounts.
So unless your going for lower rank so u can turn cv's as friends take off or land , go back to bombing everything and have FUN.


 First and formost in AH is to have fun FUN FUN, even for an old chap like me. If anyone is so set to get a high Rank, I wonder why ?..

Sure I would like to be good in any game I play, but if Rank I was after, I would join the Airforce.!:aok

I agree 100% with rod367th, be good, enjoy what you are doing and you will have many friends to enjoy with !,,, at the same time having FUN !:aok





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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2006, 01:55:56 AM »
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Originally posted by Softail

                            Me                 /                some other guy

Damage/Deaths  93340.89803       (101)       /   430597.80087   (19)
Damage/Sorties  31113.63267       (137)       /  114826.10663   (18)
Hit Percentage 260.652%      (151)       /   760.494            (18)
Points                3360272.32859     (9)           /  3444783.19892  (6)
Field Captures    0                           (2389)     /   1                      (171)




Kills   29 / 5
Assists                  2 / 0
Sorties 108 / 30
Landed 73 / 22
Bailed 4 / 2
Ditched 0 / 1
Captured                 1 / 0
Death 30 / 5
Disco 0 / 0
Time 18:14:17 /             06:11:43

Rank:                             127     /              2
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Ok, breifly.  You are scored in 5 sub-catagories in bombing.  Your bomber rank is based on your average rank in those sub-catagories.  So looking at the "other guy"s ranks:
19+18+18+6+171= 232
He is ranked #2 which means the #1 guys ranks added together is less than 232.  The #3 guys ranks added together would be more than 232.

You are tied for last place in field captures (2,389).  That high number is what is messing up your average, and therfore your rank.  If you only had 1 field capture, you would be tied at (171) which would make the sum of your sub-catagory ranks 2218 less than it is in your example.  That is how much difference that one little field capture makes.

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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2006, 02:06:50 AM »
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Originally posted by Softail
Well...if THATS what it takes .... forget it.   Seems a shame that the game would reward that "style" of play.   It sounds like one can game the game.
And he gets it!

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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2006, 02:29:24 AM »
Score is Bull. Don't worry about it & you will enjoy the game more.
The only useful info in anybody's score is how much time they spend online playin AH.

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2006, 07:11:33 AM »
softail

sometimes bombing strats helps your team. if you destroy training and kill troops at base,it takes more resupplies or time for troops to come back. same for aaa ammo and so on.



 but most do it for score and not for team. and thats okay too playing to have fun is okay and playing for rank is okay. I can't remember which Ak it was but saw him going to a strat and his words were " Man I love blowing watermelon up. I can't stop"




Rank will only count again if HTC brings back monthly challenge. We had a tourney that top 10 combined ranks each monthfor 3 months got 50 dollars each no repeat winners and then all 30 had a king of the hill battle with winner getting 500 dollars. Now if this happens again then practice for rank.........

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2006, 07:19:25 AM »
Ok....that answers that ;-)  ha ha ha

thanks to all for the replies.

Softail

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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2006, 07:49:04 AM »
hi softail

read rod 367's post on getting low rank. lots of good info there. everthing he's said here is also on the money

that thread helped me a lot. below is what i've noticed the last few months where i've managed to get a low bomber rank

use the largest bombs you can

supposedly bombing strat factories does help your team.

city strat has most density of buildings, so bombing that is good for bombing hit %

cv's are worth lots of points, and wont hurt your bomb % much. you can keep hit % in the 500%'s as long as you can hit them.  lead 1 cv length from 10K

towns are good to bomb also, just pick where you drop. go for the clusters of buildings, don't carpet bomb

you need 4 or 5 base captures per tour

dont do low altitude runs if rank is what you are interested in. its too easy for nmy fighters to get you. unfortunately its rare that your teamates in fighters will give you much cover. i usually bomb from 10-14k. most nmy fighters cant be bothered to climb to you.

like all the other scoring, deaths hurt your score. land your sorties, or at least try for a ditch. bailing and captures are almost as bad as a death
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