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Offline the Lazy ace

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« on: March 09, 2006, 09:21:26 PM »
i dunno if any1 has asked this before but i think we should have the 22,000lb 'Grand Slam' bomb fitted to the lancaster, but if so, no formation to limit power. wat yall think???

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 09:40:46 PM »
Not enough to kill the HQ. Otherwise, every task can be done with the bombs we have now.

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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 09:45:33 PM »
Put one of those dead center of a pad, and EVERY HANGER on the pad would go down . . . They called them "Earthquake Bombs" for a reason.

No reason to disable the formation since you can not drop from one plane at a time anyway.  The blast radius would not be affected all that much by the formation.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2006, 10:33:24 PM »
I'm liking this idea a lot.:D

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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2006, 11:24:55 PM »
good size comparison in this photo.

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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2006, 02:13:22 AM »
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good size comparison in this photo.

So what two bombs are we looking at here?

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2006, 02:32:20 AM »
Tallboy and Grandslam.

Tallboy (I think 5,000 pounds?) was the first one, when it worked just as designed they gave the go-ahead for the 11,000 pound Grandslam.
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2006, 12:22:12 PM »
Man it would be cool to see a monster 22,000 pounder fall from the plane.  Properly modeled they'd be able to see that sucker coming and have just enough time to say, "Oh sh".  Ground Vehicles would really hate this.

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2006, 12:24:14 PM »
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Not enough to kill the HQ.


You're forgetting formations


EDIT: It'll never happen. It wasn't a mass-produced bomb. Same reason we won't get the A-bomb. It wasn't common, and it wasn't standard. It was a 1-off. (generally speaking, that is, I don't mean "there was only 1")

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2006, 01:03:21 PM »
It might only be a one-off weapon in the arenas too, considering the damage it would do to the carrier aircrafts performance. A Lanc carrying that thing would be so slow a C-47 could catch it.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2006, 01:24:10 PM »
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You're forgetting formations


EDIT: It'll never happen. It wasn't a mass-produced bomb. Same reason we won't get the A-bomb. It wasn't common, and it wasn't standard. It was a 1-off. (generally speaking, that is, I don't mean "there was only 1")


It wasnt as rare as you would think, it was used on 40 or so occasions by 617 Squadron.  They were used against targets that were resistant to normal bombs such as aquaducts, u boat pens etc.  They worked by being streamlined so they could fall at supersonic speeds when dropped from 20k or so, digging deep into the ground and then setting off the explosive to actually create an earthquake. The fins are made to spin the bomb very very fast to keep it accurate and help it dig into the ground.  The charge to weight ratio is quite low compared to the high capacity bombs, but the charge is very powerful "torpex" explosive.

The smaller tallboy bomb weighed 12,000lb or so and was used something like 400 times, including sinking the Tirpitz.

Barnes Wallis, the designer of the bouncing bomb, designed both the tallboy and grand slam.

If modelled properly, it would obliterate a reinforced HQ in AH.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2006, 01:25:28 PM »
Might be a good way to use bomber perks.

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2006, 01:49:12 PM »
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If modelled properly, it would obliterate a reinforced HQ in AH.


You mean it should be able to.  Current report from Skuzzy has the ordnance necessary to down an HQ set at 37,500 lbs.

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2006, 01:53:59 PM »
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You're forgetting formations


I didn't forget, just

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if so, no formation to limit power.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2006, 02:00:24 PM »
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You mean it should be able to.  Current report from Skuzzy has the ordnance necessary to down an HQ set at 37,500 lbs.


the reason in AH the hq is so hard to kill is because it is supposed to be reinforced concrete. (why it looks like a big fort)

the grand slam was designed to obliterate reinforced concrete.

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The "Grand Slam" (Earthquake) bomb was of the same design as the Tallboy but larger and heavier weighing 9.979 kg (22.000 lb). The Grand Slam was first used on 14 March, 1945 when a force of Lancaster bombers led by Royal Air Force Squadron Leader C.C. Calder attacked the Bielefeld railway viaduct destroying two spans. In another attack against submarine pens, (Bunker Valentin) near Bremen, two Grand Slams pentrated 4,5 meters of reinforced concrete. 41 Grand Slam Bombs were dropped by the end of the war mainly against bridges and viaducts.


If it is modelled correctly in AH that is...
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