Author Topic: RPS: PTO - 1941-1945 (Read 996 times)

Mister Fork · « **on:** March 17, 2006, 04:18:26 PM »

Day of Infamy - Pearl Harbour (sub map Slot) - December 7 1941 (Sunday, March 19)
IJN (CV'S only)
A6M2
B5N2
D3A-1
LVT's
PT Boats
M series - land bases
USAAF
P-40E
PT Boats
M Series - land bases

Pacific Island Engagements, Jan-May 1942 (Tuesday, March 21)
- 50% of island IJA owned
USN
- add 2 CV groups
- add F4F (CV)
- add TBM (CV)
USAAF
- add B-26
- add A-20
IJA
- add GM4

Battle of Midway- USN vs IJA Pacific, June 1942 (Wednesday, March 22)
- no IJA bases
USN
- add 50% CV groups to USN
- add SBD (CV)

Pacific raids, early 1943 (Saturday, March 25)
- 50% IJA land bases
- 1 IJN CV
IJA
- add Ki-44 (land bases only)
- add JM2 Raiden (land bases only)
- remove B5N2
- remove D3A-1
USAAF
- add B-26
- add A-20
- add P-38G
- add F4U-1 (CV only)
- remove F4F

Pacific Raids, mid-late 1943 (Monday, March 27)
IJA
- add Ki-61
USAAF
- add B-24J

Asiatic-Pacific, raids early 1944, (Wednesday, March 29)
IJA
- add Ki-67
- remove GM4
USAAF
- add P-38J
- add P-47D-11
- remove P-38G

Asiatic-Pacific, raids mid-late 1944 (Friday, March 31)
- remove IJN CV
IJA
- add Ki-21
- add Ki-84
- remove Ki-44
USN
- add F4U-1D
- add F6F
- remove F4U-1
USAAF
- add P-38L
- add P-47D-25
- add P-51B
- remove P-38J
- remove B-26
- remove P-47D-11
- remove P-40E

Battle for Okinawa, early 1945 (Sunday, April 2)
Map: Okinawa
IJA
- add NIK2-J
- add Ki-100
- remove JM2 Raiden
- remove A6M5
USAAF
- add P-47D40
- add P-51D
- remove P-47D-25
- remove P-38L

Battle for Okinawa, mid 45 (Tuesday, April 4)
IJA
- remove Ki-61
- remove Ki-21
USN
- add F4U-1C
- remove F6F
- remove FM2
- remove F4U-1D
USAAF
- remove A-20
- remove P47D-40
- remove P-51B

Summer 45 - the USA closes in... (Thursday, April 6)
IJA
- remove Ki-67
USN
- add F4U-4
USAAF
- add P-47N

Arena Settings
Dar: 30 miles tower, 60 miles sector
Fuel: 1.2
AAA: .25
Killshooter: off

Notes
- no C-47's (there were no true para-operations in PTO)
- M series ground vehicles represent the light tanks and vehicles used
- LVT's available at all fields, again, to represent the light tanks used.
- G4M (Betty)- sub Ju-88
- Ki-21 (Sally) sub Bf110C-4b
- Ki-44 - sub Bf109F-4
- JM2 Raiden - sub Bf109G-2
- Ki-100 - sub Fw190A-5

Treize69 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2006, 08:52:53 PM »

Pearl Harbor should be P-40Bs, not Es. They weren't deployed to Hawaii, and I think there was only a very few (less than a full squadron) at Clark Field. The majority were stateside.

They could be added for the next phase though, as they did have them for New Guinea, Australia and Java.

Early engagements shouldn't have the B-26 yet I don't think, as any that were available at that time were the earlier version which was a lot less combat-worthy than our version.

And probably the Boston, not the A20 that early.

bozon · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2006, 03:30:36 AM »

didn't F4u-1 operate from land bases in early 43?

Bozon

Fencer51 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2006, 12:28:47 PM »

The most widely used bomber in the early campaigns was the B-17.
There were B17s at Pearl Harbor too.

There were 6 B26s on Midway during that battle.

The F6F3 was used on carriers from 43 onward. The -5 would be more appropriate than the F4U-1 on CVs.

The F6F5 should be available through the end of the war once deployed.

Looks good though. Looking forward to flying some Japanese planes without running into LA7s and SpitXVIs.

Shifty · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2006, 12:38:52 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Treize69
Pearl Harbor should be P-40Bs, not Es. They weren't deployed to Hawaii, and I think there was only a very few (less than a full squadron) at Clark Field. The majority were stateside.

They could be added for the next phase though, as they did have them for New Guinea, Australia and Java.

Early engagements shouldn't have the B-26 yet I don't think, as any that were available at that time were the earlier version which was a lot less combat-worthy than our version.

And probably the Boston, not the A20 that early.

The Pearl Harbor attack lasted two hours, your right P-40bs were at Pearl. The P-40E was in active squadron use elsewhere in the PTO. No need to make a two hour raid last for two days, so the P-40E should be included.
The Day of Infamy , affected the whole Pacific not just Pearl Harbor.

storch · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2006, 02:03:34 PM »

ya leave the P40E in the B is all but useless. game play should be the important and overriding factor. good job MrFork. Fencer the B-17s at pearl were D models IIRC. no tail gun for those puppies.

Fencer51 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2006, 09:04:14 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by storch
Fencer the B-17s at pearl were D models IIRC. no tail gun for those
puppies.

I saw the movie TORA TORA TORA and they are definately G models.

storch · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2006, 12:08:12 PM »

gear · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2006, 08:51:46 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Fencer51
I saw the movie TORA TORA TORA and they are definately G models.

Not histoicaly correct.The B-17G was introduced onto the Fortress production line in July of 1943, and was destined to be produced in larger numbers than any other models.
The first mass flight of bombers (21 B-17Ds) from Hamilton Field, California, arrived at Hickam on May 14, 1941. By December 1941, the .Hawaiian Air Force had been an integrated command for slightly more than one year and consisted of 754 officers and 6,706 enlisted men, with 233 aircraft assigned at its three primary bases (Hickam, Wheeler, and Bellows).
They used the "G" because there was no "D" modles to be had.

Shifty · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2006, 09:57:01 PM »

I think he knows......... It was meant as a joke. However if we do decide to use Hollywood examples I saw some F6F's , and a couple of F4Us in the movie Midway.

Come to think of it there were a couple of scenes in Midway that were cut from Battle of Britain showing those showing 109s.

Slash27 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2006, 10:45:20 PM »

I think the used some clips from Tora Tora Tora in Midway as well. ( I thought I saw Mothra briefly but maybe not)

Anyone ever see that movie Air Force (i think) about the B-17 crew just after Pearl? The one where the cut a hole in the tail of their Fortress to put a .50 cal in it? Pretty cool show.Made during the war I believe.

gear · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2006, 06:03:54 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Shifty
I
Come to think of it there were a couple of scenes in Midway that were cut from Battle of Britain showing those showing 109s.

Naw the 109's got lost

Shifty · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2006, 06:38:17 AM »

There were quite a few shots taken from Tora Tora Tora. Lots of newsreel stuff too.
This movie came out in 1977 I think. I remember way back then I was a little dissapointed in the editing. F4F pilot ditches his F6F , and other little things like that. Shots of SB2C's landing on Essex class CV's , and AA gunners firing from Iowa class BB's which we did npt have at the Battle Of Midway, were a couple of editing mistakes.
But not bad for the 70's I guess.

Phaser11 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2006, 10:17:40 AM »

HEY!
What about the movie where the Nimits went back in time Zeek vrs the F-14! Where are the F-14s!!!!!

hehehehe

Oldman731 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2006, 11:10:35 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Shifty
But not bad for the 70's I guess.

Bah. Midway was dung, especially for the 70s. I think they rushed it into production just to have a war movie that could use the Sensurround technology. If memory serves, they even had the Hiryu getting sunk on May 5, not May 4.

Makes me mad just to think about it.

- oldman