Author Topic: More Jolly Olde silliness, eh, wot? (Read 840 times)

Curval · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2006, 11:04:38 AM »

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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
You also live on an island in the middle of nowhere which is smaller than most towns.

Unless it has changed there isn't much of any crime since everyone knows each other and there is no place to hide. Also, your price points keep out the vast majority of those who would be likely to commit crimes in the first place. I'd bet that even if you had a must issue law there would still be a very low instance of crime.

Fine. No argument here....just please stop telling me I need a gun. I don't.

Curval · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2006, 11:06:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
So in other words, you don't like them so no one else where you live should have them either. Got it.

Not just me. I will bet you a million dollars that anyone you should ask on the street will say the same thing. This isn't America and we don't have a gun culture here.

Hangtime · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2006, 11:07:25 AM »

I suspect curvie has the same 'bad elements' we've got.. in every population group, there's always the 'bad seeds'. There's guns on his island, and more than a few are doubtless in the hands of people he really doesn't want to know...

and we can all hope the day never comes when that islands food and fuel imports get cut off, because those will be the days when curvie and his family discovers just how bad an idea it was to not have one himself.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2006, 11:13:50 AM »

Curvie,

I would never tell you that you should own one but ask that you respect that others may.

The root of this position is that freedom is a good thing. A foundation of a society is best built on trust and respect with those who can not honor those foundations be dealt with but not at the expense of all.

Curval · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2006, 12:24:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
I suspect curvie has the same 'bad elements' we've got.. in every population group, there's always the 'bad seeds'. There's guns on his island, and more than a few are doubtless in the hands of people he really doesn't want to know...

and we can all hope the day never comes when that islands food and fuel imports get cut off, because those will be the days when curvie and his family discovers just how bad an idea it was to not have one himself.

So, I will worry about the day when our food and fuel runs out...while you will have to make sure you are packing when you head out to Dennys.

Fine by me.

Thrawn · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2006, 12:25:09 PM »

Wow Curval, yet again you hijack a thread and make it about American firearm issues.

Curval · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2006, 12:32:22 PM »

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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Curvie,

I would never tell you that you should own one but ask that you respect that others may.

The root of this position is that freedom is a good thing. A foundation of a society is best built on trust and respect with those who can not honor those foundations be dealt with but not at the expense of all.

I respect American's rights to own and carry whatever they like. I don't have to worry about those who "want to" here because it simply isn't permitted. I like that and feel safer. If someone feels the need to go shoot guns they can join a gun club. It isn't just me, it is the whole country that feels this way...except maybe for the crimminals who hate the fact that getting their hands on guns is very very difficult and the penalties for having or using one are extremely severe.

We aren't Americans and we don't want people walking around armed. Like it or not that is the way it is here. I'm sure the concept is foreign to you but perhaps that is because...it is foreign to you. Can you respect that?

Curval · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2006, 12:35:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Wow Curval, yet again you hijack a thread and make it about American firearm issues.

Pay attention Thrawn. This thread has become about Bermudian firearm issues...or lack thereof.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2006, 12:50:47 PM »

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No argument here....just please stop telling me I need a gun. I don't.

We know curval. Subjects don't need guns.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2006, 01:04:31 PM »

For the most part I can respect that...

I oppose seatbelt laws and most any other that intrudes on ones liberties as well. I wear a seatbelt and agree that it is safer than not but it still does not make it a government issue. In my book one should not trust a government that does not trust you. Just because statistics show something is safer one way or another does not mean that society should be be subjected to it. I don't mind your island doing what it does but I would not live there.

Thrawn · « **Reply #25 on:** March 20, 2006, 01:08:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Pay attention Thrawn.

Hells no.

Curval · « **Reply #26 on:** March 20, 2006, 01:17:53 PM »

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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
For the most part I can respect that...

I oppose seatbelt laws and most any other that intrudes on ones liberties as well. I wear a seatbelt and agree that it is safer than not but it still does not make it a government issue. In my book one should not trust a government that does not trust you. Just because statistics show something is safer one way or another does not mean that society should be be subjected to it. I don't mind your island doing what it does but I would not live there.

Fine.

Just curious though. By wearing that seatbelt and obeying the LAW that makes it mandatory for you to wear it, does it make you a subject? Aren't you just conforming? Shouldn't you be marching on Washington and yelling from the rooftops that your civil liberties are being violated?

No?

Welcome to the club then.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 20, 2006, 01:36:28 PM »

Curvie, nothing is gained or lost by wearing or not wearing a seatbelt except for your own personal safety. If you wear a seatbelt, it doesn't effect anything else.

The one thing that would be lost by not wearing a seatbelt is 150 dollar fine because the government wants money. Whether or not it's a real punishment doesn't matter because they will get their money.

Curval · « **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2006, 01:40:43 PM »

That isn't the point. How DARE the government suggest you, as Americans, should have to wear one? It is a clear violation of your personal freedom to choose. It all the more an affront to your rights as it in no way impinges upon anyone else.

Off you go to Washington wrapped up in the Stars and Stripes old fellow. You TELL the man you ain't gonna stand for it.

Do you wear one laser? I certainly hope not, otherwise I'd have to call you a subject.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:00:48 PM »

Yes, I do believe the government has over stepped his bounds. But then again I believe the government has long since been corrupt.

Btw, I choose to wear a seat belt because I believe it will save me and I'd rather like to live. Just this past weekends a student at my U died because she was in a car accident and wasn't wearing a seatbelt.