Author Topic: How accurate is FLAK (Read 3081 times)

ChopSaw · « **Reply #45 on:** March 26, 2006, 04:35:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
dispersion, auto aimed guns that all fire at one point, unmanned guns firing (both cheek guns and chin gun at same time).

You know….you're right. That's really unrealistic in the real world sense. Doesn't belong in this "real" video game at all. Lets fix those bombers so they're real.

hitech · « **Reply #46 on:** March 26, 2006, 04:43:37 PM »

ChopSaw, Word of advise. If you stop useing words like "Fix" and instead use words like change you might start getting a better response.

Fix implies they are broken and do not work as intended.

HiTech

ChopSaw · « **Reply #47 on:** March 26, 2006, 05:50:03 PM »

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Originally posted by hitech
ChopSaw, Word of advise. If you stop useing words like "Fix" and instead use words like change you might start getting a better response.

Fix implies they are broken and do not work as intended.

HiTech

Thank you for your comment. I'll keep it in mind in future posts. You're right, change or changed back sound much better. However, I was employing sarcasm when I used the term "fix". The sarcasm was directed at Furball's rather glib and simplistic reply.

Stoney74 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 27, 2006, 12:05:09 AM »

Maneuvering shouldn't help out at all, because it didn't in real life. German flak batteries were given boxes in the sky in which to shoot. No one on the heavy flak guns on the deck were "aiming" at individual planes. In the beginning of the war, they tried "aiming" and it didn't work. Traditional AAA defense doctrine revolves around sectors of fire combined with separate altitudes for different batteries. You make a 3-D box for planes to fly through and hopefully hit some of them. The N. Vietnamese even did it with SAM's, volley firing them towards planes. Watch the videos of the Gulf War and see how the Iraqi batteries keep shooting in one direction the whole time--same thing. Flak (puffy ack in AH) was a completely random thing in ETO, it should remain so in AH. I think it works well in the game, serves its purpose, and visually gets you into the period during play.

Furball · « **Reply #49 on:** March 27, 2006, 12:49:30 AM »

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Originally posted by ChopSaw
You know….you're right. That's really unrealistic in the real world sense. Doesn't belong in this "real" video game at all. Lets fix those bombers so they're real.

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Originally posted by ChopSaw
However, I was employing sarcasm when I used the term "fix". The sarcasm was directed at Furball's rather glib and simplistic reply.

You are quite the touchy one.

I was replying to you saying what i found "unrealistic" with the bomber guns. Sorry i will add more sugar and sprinkles next time to save you getting offended.

Furball · « **Reply #50 on:** March 27, 2006, 12:51:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Stoney74
Maneuvering shouldn't help out at all, because it didn't in real life. German flak batteries were given boxes in the sky in which to shoot. No one on the heavy flak guns on the deck were "aiming" at individual planes. In the beginning of the war, they tried "aiming" and it didn't work. Traditional AAA defense doctrine revolves around sectors of fire combined with separate altitudes for different batteries. You make a 3-D box for planes to fly through and hopefully hit some of them. The N. Vietnamese even did it with SAM's, volley firing them towards planes. Watch the videos of the Gulf War and see how the Iraqi batteries keep shooting in one direction the whole time--same thing. Flak (puffy ack in AH) was a completely random thing in ETO, it should remain so in AH. I think it works well in the game, serves its purpose, and visually gets you into the period during play.

That is a good point.

But in Aces High they do track the target because there are fewer guns available. You can sit on CV deck/runway tower and watch the AI guns track the target. Probably just a visual thing i know - as ack does not originate from the ack guns and is actually generated in the box system that we speak of above. (and thats why it can "shoot through hills" etc)

HT, another thing i noticed as quite strange when i was flying the other day in fighter town - I was zooming along the deck close to the water, and because the bases there are at 5k, puffy ack was shooting at me even though i was 2 or 3k below the actual base. Didnt bother me any, but i dont know if you want to look at it as a bug?

Thanks.

dedalos · « **Reply #51 on:** March 27, 2006, 01:05:42 PM »

This is the wish forum, so here is my wish:

I wish Furbal woul stop crying about getting killed from the puffy ack

Furball · « **Reply #52 on:** March 27, 2006, 01:13:08 PM »

i wish your wife would put rat poison in your coffee so you stop tainting the name of our good squad.

dedalos · « **Reply #53 on:** March 28, 2006, 10:47:16 AM »

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i wish your wife would put rat poison in your coffee so you stop tainting the name of our good squad.

The BrokebacKnights? The squad sucks. Have you seen our score? And to think some in this squad think they are good. We are not even in the top 100. Pathetic

ChopSaw · « **Reply #54 on:** March 28, 2006, 12:11:52 PM »

Fight, fight!!! Inner squad fight!!! ………..and don't forget my sprinkles. I like chocolate. (bounces on his seat waiting for next round of verbal blows) Ah the weave and warp of wit as it flies through the air with the greatest of ease.

Furball · « **Reply #55 on:** March 28, 2006, 12:14:29 PM »

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Ah the weave and warp of wit as it flies through the air with the greatest of ease.

you mis-spelled ****.

dedalos · « **Reply #56 on:** March 28, 2006, 04:11:47 PM »

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Originally posted by ChopSaw
Fight, fight!!! Inner squad fight!!! ………..and don't forget my sprinkles. I like chocolate. (bounces on his seat waiting for next round of verbal blows) Ah the weave and warp of wit as it flies through the air with the greatest of ease.

Too easy. I'll drop you back in

ChopSaw · « **Reply #57 on:** March 29, 2006, 03:57:17 AM »

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Too easy. I'll drop you back in

(sigh) It was such a beautiful fly.