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« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2006, 08:04:04 PM »
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Speakers aside, if you are on a budget.  Spend more on the amplifier/receiver than the speakers.  A good amp can make poor speakers sound ok, but no matter how good the speakers are, a bad amp will make them sound bad.

Also, try to match the wattage/output of the amp to the room you will be placing it.  An under-powered amp for a room will sound terrible.  Better to have a bit too much, than too little.  I typically use the following equation.

square feet * 30W = total wattage

Hey, I hate to take a step back here, but did you type this right?  So for 100 SqFt room, you'd want a 3000 watt amp?  Youch!
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« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2006, 08:05:59 PM »
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Hey Masherbrum...  I'm tellin ya, head out to the carsound.com forums and look up this Richard Clark guy.  It's much better than a bet, actually...if you lose, you only lose the trip fare + $100.  If you win, you get $10,000.  He doesn't charge when he sets up a booth at a conference, but he started charging $100 for individual challenge applicants because so many people started trying it individually and failing, and it was costing him a lot of time to keep setting it up and making arrangements.  You can give it a try, but I'll give you the same warning as I gave Skuzzy. ;)



Perhaps so, but I've never heard a good horn.  Stats and ribbons are the way to go on the high end IMO...unless you've got a PA application where pure SPL is more important than quality.  I've auditioned Klipsch in hi-end stores, and was not impressed (compared to the likes of Logan stats).  I think the problem is the inherent distortion of compression drivers.


Again, I'm a fixture in a few high end stores here in Michigan.  To judge Klipsch Horn-loaded in a store, in unacceptable.  Again, these NEED to be in a corner to MAXIMIZE their design.  

You have two takers on the bet in the same thread.  By exposing your forum buddy, you are naming him as incompetent.  He's wrong, and "his years of service" sicken me, as I know more than he, but, he get's the easy job.  

But purely going on a horn listened to in the store is pointless.  If you HAVE the means to purchase them, take em home, and audition them for 30 days and if unsatisfied, return em.   Again, they must be in a corner, if not, they'll sound horrible.  

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« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2006, 08:13:19 PM »
Furthermore, this "proposed bet" is only damaging the character of "Richard".   I'd really hope you stop referring to this amateur.  

Back to the original point.  Bose is all about marketing.  Also, why on earth anyone would buy speakers from a Company who REFUSES to print Frequency Response numbers (I told you guys why THEY DO) defies not only any Home Theater rules, but mere Common Sense.

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« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2006, 08:17:17 PM »
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You have two takers on the bet in the same thread.  By exposing your forum buddy, you are naming him as incompetent.  He's wrong, and "his years of service" sicken me, as I know more than he, but, he get's the easy job.


Woah there.  We have zero takers on the bet so far.  If you want to take the bet, contact him not me.  I'm totally serious.  $10,000 free for the taking.  Well known.  Let us know how it goes.  He's not incompetent, I think you'll find. ;)

You might be surprised at what you really can and can't hear, is the test is truly double-blind.

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But purely going on a horn listened to in the store is pointless.  If you HAVE the means to purchase them, take em home, and audition them for 30 days and if unsatisfied, return em.   Again, they must be in a corner, if not, they'll sound horrible.


Do corners remove the effects of super-pressure-induced distortion?

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« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2006, 11:18:07 AM »
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Hey, I hate to take a step back here, but did you type this right?  So for 100 SqFt room, you'd want a 3000 watt amp?  Youch!
Oopsy, it was a typo.  Try 3W per square foot.  Thanks for calling it out SOB.
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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2006, 11:20:49 AM »
A hi-fi horn speaker should be placed with about 0.5-1 meter clearance to walls just as any other speaker. Corner placement will only help bass reproduction in volume but degrade the quality. Degradation happens because a corner placement maximises the effects of standing waves (dead or boomy spots in room).

Take Acapella for example of a quality horn speaker. As a curiosity it has a PLASMA tweeter. That's right, the sound comes from superheated gas trapped in an electric field. :D

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« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2006, 05:44:19 PM »
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Woah there.  We have zero takers on the bet so far.  If you want to take the bet, contact him not me.  I'm totally serious.  $10,000 free for the taking.  Well known.  Let us know how it goes.  He's not incompetent, I think you'll find. ;)

You might be surprised at what you really can and can't hear, is the test is truly double-blind.

 

Do corners remove the effects of super-pressure-induced distortion?


Horn LOADED drivers are unaffected by this.   But, we'll assume I know nothing.  

Karaya

PS - You're being played like Prometheus and you haven't figured it out yet.  Please stop.
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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2006, 07:04:52 PM »
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Horn LOADED drivers are unaffected by this.


...but compression drivers are.

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PS - You're being played like Prometheus and you haven't figured it out yet.  Please stop.


I don't think so.  Have you contacted Mr. Clark about your in-the-bag $10K yet? ;)

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« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2006, 07:39:42 PM »
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Oopsy, it was a typo.  Try 3W per square foot.  Thanks for calling it out SOB.

Heh, no problem.  I know >< much about home stereo equipment and was amazed at the thought.  :D
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« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2006, 08:33:55 PM »
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...but compression drivers are.

Klipsch are Horn LOADED.  They are NOT compression drivers, so I'm wondering why you are bring "compression drivers" into the "Klipsch Discussion".    Let me know when you get back on the road from fish-tailing.

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« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2006, 10:48:13 PM »
Cool, thx for the info.  Let me know when you take the amp challenge.