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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2006, 01:10:57 PM »
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Nop, they came in in 2s and 3s.  Same thing with a fighter though.  If you get jumped by 5 you dont really expect to survive, do you?

I know what the thread is about and I answered properly in my first post.  Someone else took it to a different subject.  So, mod them first please.

If there was such thing as plane factories, they would constantly be down.  Therefore, they would not provide a good target for buffs (unless you like hitting stuff thats already destroid) except of the first couple of guys to hit them.  The would be just like a refinery.  When was the last time you found one up so you could bomb it?


I don't think you are really looking at this as it would/could be.  Nobody cares about the refineries as they you can't take fuel down anyway.  So nobody protects the refineries.  If, on the other hand, it is a factory which puts out and controls fighters, you can bet it will be protected by fighters.  Look at the idea Kweassa has on this.  I think the numbers are a little high for it, but the concept is sound with a lot of merit.  Also, if there are several of these fighter factories producing different eny planes (without labels as to which and rotated on each map) then you have bombers trying to take down several different ones and fighters protecting them all.  In the opening hours on a new map, there isn't a try on HQ and so it would be with these factories.  They would be too deep in protected territory.  As the war wages on, there would be more and more trying on the factories and more and more fighters up to protect them.  Granted the alt would be higher than most furballers go for a fight, but I'm sure they would go up.

Last week we upped 4 buff formations to hit an HQ.  We were met by more fighters than I could count.  Only one even made it to HQ and home again. (no, it wasn't me either) But it was great fun  It would have been even better if we all had the extra gunner onbaord, but we didn't.

There are so many ways to have strategic targets which mean something for bombers to hit that are not being using right now. They would get some of the bomber guys off of killing the FHs and still mean something.  This would also widen the venue of targets for fighters.  The choice becames, do I furball, protect the base or protect strat factories?

Look at WWII and the bombing runs on the fuel refineries, ball bearing factories, etc.  These were targets which could help end the war, so they were bombed over and over again.  There were also fighters there to greet them.

Letting AH be just a furballer or fighter game is limiting and in the end boring to many people.  I, for one, get tired of just "jumping" into a fighter, going to kill another fighter and either get killed or RTB, then do the same thing over and over again.  That's what you can use DA for.  In MA you can pick what plane/vehicle you want and fight the fight you want, be it one on one combat, horde raid or strategy play.  Or it at least it should be that way.  IMO

With the system in place as it is now, there is really little for the bomber guys to do.  High alt base porking, or CV hunting.  Base porking and CV sinking can be done by fighters, so why do we have the bombers to begin with?  Back in AHI, it was for strategy targets, but for the the most part, the strat system in AHII doesn't exist.

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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2006, 01:39:38 PM »
Gato,

It is not the real buff guys I am worried about.  Not the once that will destroy a base in order to take it.  Not the onse that will actually do it form 10K or 20K.  Not tthe people that are trying to win the war. I have no problems with that and I don't think they are out there to destroy anyones fun.

Its the diving LANCs and the jabos that will be augering on those factoriesn 24-7 that I wory about.  I guarantee you that the real buff drivers will have nothing to hit after after the first havlf hour of a new map.  Some will do it because they dont know any better and some because they can and some because they think it is funny to hear the whines on 200.

The problem is that when we make a comment about some idiot diving his bombers on the FHs in FT for example, all the other buff guys think we talk about them and we are trying to remove them from the game.  Then we all get labeled furbalers as if that is something evil.  

In anycase, there are people in this game that have fun by stopping other peoples fun.  They will make sure those factories stay down.
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Dedalos pretty much ruined DA.

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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2006, 06:02:19 PM »
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True I always see myself going up against 999 many times, stupid me you can say.


LOL

I was flying in a big buff raid with 999 and tater about a week ago.  Must have been 17 flight in the formation.  Only buffs intiailly attacked out of them all where guess...  999 and tater.  They were fighter magnets.
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2006, 06:15:35 PM »
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Gato,

It is not the real buff guys I am worried about.  Not the once that will destroy a base in order to take it.  Not the onse that will actually do it form 10K or 20K.  Not tthe people that are trying to win the war. I have no problems with that and I don't think they are out there to destroy anyones fun.

Its the diving LANCs and the jabos that will be augering on those factoriesn 24-7 that I wory about.  I guarantee you that the real buff drivers will have nothing to hit after after the first havlf hour of a new map.  Some will do it because they dont know any better and some because they can and some because they think it is funny to hear the whines on 200.

The problem is that when we make a comment about some idiot diving his bombers on the FHs in FT for example, all the other buff guys think we talk about them and we are trying to remove them from the game.  Then we all get labeled furbalers as if that is something evil.  

In anycase, there are people in this game that have fun by stopping other peoples fun.  They will make sure those factories stay down.


Dive bombing lanc!  Yeah, I've seen it and to this day can't believe HTC hasn't corrected the modeling.  Heavy bombers were never designed to dive bomb.  I'm not saying it never happened, I really don't know.  But I find it silly and very unreal.  Okay, so we play a game and it is all unreal, but this falls way beyond that, at least for me.

BTW, I never have 200 on.  I guess I got burnt out back in AHI on that, it was always way too much bull for me.

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2006, 08:20:46 PM »
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This would make things very interesting if the good ole boys from HTC could put this in. I like the perk plane factory idea but instead of using perk planes how about the top of the line non perk planes such as the spit16, la7, niki, etc. When the factory is destroyed you can no longer use the listed planes above for at least an hour. It would make things a whole lot interesting and also make people more tempted to defend the factories. Good ideal Filth


uh.....:huh why not just destroy the fighter hangers

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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2006, 01:11:17 PM »
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BTW, I never have 200 on.  I guess I got burnt out back in AHI on that, it was always way too much bull for me.


:O Better ask HT for a refund.  You are missing half of the fun :D
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Dedalos pretty much ruined DA.

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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2006, 01:48:47 PM »
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:O Better ask HT for a refund.  You are missing half of the fun :D



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