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Offline Gunslinger

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« on: March 23, 2006, 10:57:15 AM »
As much as she's trying to appear as a moderate Sen. Clinton will not win if not for this sole issue IMHO.  One thing that WILL galvonize the right base and even many moderates is the immigration and border security issues.  IMHO many conservatives fault Pres. Bush for his lack of action in border security and hate his gold card program.  The funny part is her envoking biblical comparisons in hopes to fly in the face of so called christian conservatives...... :lol

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Clinton vows to block bill criminalizing illegal immigrants
 
By BETH FOUHY
AP Political Writer

March 22, 2006, 2:51 PM EST

NEW YORK -- Invoking Biblical themes, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton joined immigration advocates Wednesday to vow and block legislation seeking to criminalize undocumented immigrants.

Clinton, a potential 2008 presidential candidate and relative latecomer to the immigration debate, made her remarks as the Senate prepares to take up the matter next week.

Clinton renewed her pledge to oppose a bill passed in December by the House that would make unlawful presence in the United States _ currently a civil offense _ a felony. The Senate is set to consider a version of that legislation, as well as several other bills seeking to address the seemingly intractable issue of immigration reform.

Surrounded by a multicultural coalition of New York immigration advocates, Clinton blasted the House bill as "mean-spirited" and said it flew in the face of Republicans' stated support for faith and values.

"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures," Clinton said, "because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself."

Clinton did not specifically endorse any competing legislation, including a bill co-authored by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and another by Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), saying she hoped the Senate Judiciary Committee would produce a compromise incorporating the best elements of all the bills and would remove the harsh penalties contained in the House measure.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) has said the Senate will take up his proposal to tighten borders and punish employers who hire illegal immigrants if the Judiciary Committee doesn't complete a broader bill by next week.

Among other things, Clinton said she would support legislation that would strengthen U.S. borders, boost technology to secure the borders, and seek greater cross-border cooperation with Mexico and other neighboring countries.

She also called for new enforcement laws, including penalties for employers who exploit illegal immigrants, as well as a system to allow the roughly 11 million illegal immigrants currently living in the United States to earn their citizenship.

Clinton expressed sympathy to representatives of communities along the U.S.-Mexico border that are frustrated by the stress of providing social services to large numbers of undocumented immigrants. But she also said she hoped to send a message that supporters of punitive immigration policy faced significant political risk for doing so.

"We want the outcome to be that they're on the wrong side of the politics as well as the wrong side of history and American values," she said.

President Bush has argued for a guest worker program that would allow undocumented immigrants already in the United States to keep their jobs for up to six years. The effort hasn't gained much momentum, partly due to fierce resistance from others within the GOP.


Copyright 2006 Newsday Inc.
 


Seems a bit of pandering to both sides.  Of course any time you are anti-immigration you are branded a racist.  To me is seems mute to tackle the immigration issue when security should come first.  Who cares about Jose waiting for work outside Home Depot when there's Humvees with mounted machine guns wearing mexican uniforms crossing the border escorted felons and drug runners.
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2006, 01:22:32 PM »
I wouldn't be too quick to jump the gun.  Next week she will say that she was, and she has changed her opinion.

The Democrats have done it millions of times, why should she be any different?
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2006, 01:33:48 PM »
Immigration isn't the problem, it's illegal immigration that's the problem.
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Offline Mickey1992

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2006, 02:26:44 PM »
"....as well as a system to allow the roughly 11 million illegal immigrants currently living in the United States to earn their citizenship"

There already is a system for immigrants to earn their citizenship.  Why should we make a new system for the ones that are here illegally?

I really, really, really, hope that she does not win the Democratic bid to represent her party.  What a joke.
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2006, 02:49:26 PM »
Lasor nailed it.  She's pandering strait out of Bubba Clinton's book "how I won the white house by appealing to everyone on everything"

Natty I think there's two seperate issues here.  

1.  Border Security:  This encompesses border crossers of all types to include drug runners and smuglers
2.  Immigration:  Allowing those who will be productive members of society to become American citizens and pay taxes just like the rest of us.  

many jump right to immigration when you bring up the border but it's not just that.  The Mexican army has incured on our borders more than 216 times in the last few years according to DHS.  The immigration system is overwhelmed and broken and needs to be fixed as much as the border security situation.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2006, 02:53:28 PM »
Kinda like Bush running as a fiscal conservative, never underestimate the gulability of the US voter.

She will probably get in.

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2006, 02:53:54 PM »
A woman President OK
A democrat President OK
A democrat woman President CHECK PLEASE!!
I hear land is real cheep in Mexico.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2006, 02:57:15 PM »
Hillary Clinton couldnt win even if she was the only person running
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2006, 03:14:12 PM »
"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures," Clinton said




It's True! Satan is well versed in the scriptures!
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2006, 03:17:33 PM »
HILLARY'S FIRST NIGHT AS PRESIDENT  
                                in  January 2009




Hillary Clinton gets elected President and is spending her  
first night in the White House.  She has waited so  long.........  
The ghost of George Washington appears, and Hillary says,
"How can I best serve my country?"  


 Washington says, "Never tell a lie."
"Ouch!" Says Hillary, "I  don't know about that."

The next night, the ghost of Thomas Jefferson  appears...
Hillary says, "How can I best serve my country?"
Jefferson  says,

"Listen to the people."
"Ohhh! I really don't want to do  that."

On the third night, the ghost of Abe Lincoln  appears..  
Hillary says, "How can I best serve my country?"
Lincoln says,

"Go to the theater."
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2006, 03:18:43 PM »
"i was for Immigration before i was against it"
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2006, 04:41:30 PM »
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Hillary Clinton couldnt win even if she was the only person running


Latest polls do not support this opinion.
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2006, 04:44:58 PM »
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Originally posted by Sandman
Latest polls do not support this opinion.


we thought the same, and now a woman is ru(i)nning our Country.
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