Author Topic: Online plane database is up (Read 1023 times)

calan · « **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2006, 06:42:03 PM »

Only 19 planes to go ... Great work!

Calan

Spatula · « **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2006, 07:31:05 PM »

interesting

Hey i would hasten to add that your categorisation of the P51-D as a mid-high alt, and the B as Mid alt is prob not accurate IMO. Check out the climb and speed data on the HTC site and you will quickly note that the P51-B is significantly superior to the P51-D at High altitudes, and the D significantly better at mid-lower altitudes.

Where:
High = 20K +
Mid-High = 15-20k
Mid = 10K-15K
Mid-Low = 5-10K
Low < 5K

So based on the above definition the P51-D is more a Mid-Low to Mid and a P51-B definitely a High.

calan · « **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2006, 08:25:14 PM »

Feel free to update the alts Spatula... (If it has my name, I just took a best guess). Just be sure to put your name in, so people will know who to argue with if they want

Spatula · « **Reply #33 on:** March 23, 2006, 08:59:13 PM »

Ok, done. I think they better reflect the P51s in Aces High now.

But, IMO, the P51s have elite status on the range and not the P47N As it was the P51 which was the fighter which could escort the B17s all the way to Berlin and back. Untill the arrival of the P51, the P47s, and P38 escort fighters had to leave the bombers to fend for themselves for their final leg over Germany as they hadnt the fuel to continue - even with drop tanks.

TexMurphy · « **Reply #34 on:** March 24, 2006, 09:58:17 AM »

calan

The alt where engine performance starts to change is usually above 10-12k... difference between 0-5 and 5-10 is usually not that big...

I feel its kind of strange that you judge climbing over a alt span, you have turning at high and low alt but accel only at low level.

What I would sudgest that would make this clear is that you merge Climb and Accel into the following:

C/A Low alt (sub 12k)
C/A High alt (above 12k)

That would accomplish what we both want.

You can see if a planes Climb rate (accell) changes vs another plane with alt difference. For example Spit 9 gets relativly (relative towards avg) better at higher alt while its relativly weak at lower alts. La-7 is relativly weak at high alt while its relativly very good at low alt.

So that would give you the pointer you want. Dont try to out accell or out climb the LaLa at low alt. Plus that you will see that you should get the fight to higher alts and if you decend then you will hand over the advantage to the LaLa...

Tex

calan · « **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2006, 12:23:10 PM »

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Originally posted by TexMurphy
calan

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What I would sudgest that would make this clear is that you merge Climb and Accel into the following:

C/A Low alt (sub 12k)
C/A High alt (above 12k)

That would accomplish what we both want.
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I like it!

I'll try to change it around on the next release of the site... and see if we can get the data updated. (I'm trying to make the changes all at once if possible).

Thanks Tex