Author Topic: Gun toting robbers seen off by man with sharp instrument! (Read 971 times)

beet1e · « **on:** March 24, 2006, 02:31:03 PM »

I can't believe it! Not that a man wielding a sharp instrument should get the better of the two gunmen, but that it happened within a mile of my house!!! What is the neighbourhood coming to!

The sharp instrument in question was a foot long WW1 bayonet - LOL. Apparently the shop proprietor Bob Simon is an avid gun collector - though one assumes that his collection no longer includes handguns.

Story here: http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=88&story=1270

I have used both of those stores! Glad I remembered to take money to pay for my purchases!

I strongly suspect that the guns were fakes/toys/replicas. No shots were fired, of course. That would be so... un-British.

lazs2 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2006, 02:34:31 PM »

Pretty sure that a WWI bayonet like that is illegal in england... did the cops arrest the guy after he chased off the robbers?

lazs

Curval · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2006, 02:40:52 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Pretty sure that a WWI bayonet like that is illegal in england...

What makes you so sure of that?

Russian · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2006, 02:42:11 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Pretty sure that a WWI bayonet like that is illegal in england... did the cops arrest the guy after he chased off the robbers?

lazs

Yep, and he is going to jail for 30 years because of it.

British legal system:
Rubber if caught get fine.
Defenders get 30 years if successful.

Nashwan · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2006, 02:52:38 PM »

There's nothing illegal about having a bayonet, or using it to defend yourself. It's illegal to carry one in public without good reason

Mustaine · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:01:09 PM »

to protect yourself from all the replica-gun-toting-thugs in the area robbing people.

Toad · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:04:37 PM »

P'raps Parliament can hustle up and work in a bayonet and replica bayonet ban into the upcoming Violent Crime Reduction Bill.

Should fit in well with the proposed ban on blank guns.

Toad · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:08:52 PM »

Goodness me, they appear to be considering a "drinking banning order"as well.

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Drinking banning orders

(1)A drinking banning order is an order that prohibits the individual against whom it is made (“the subject”) from doing the things described in the order.

(2)Such an order may impose any prohibition on the subject which is necessary for the purpose of protecting other persons from criminal or disorderly conduct by the subject while he is under the influence of alcohol.

(3)The prohibitions imposed by such an order must include such prohibition as the court making it considers necessary, for that purpose, on the subject’s entering—

(a) premises in respect of which there is a premises licence authorising the use of the premises for the sale of alcohol by retail; and

(b)premises in respect of which there is a club premises certificate authorising the use of the premises for the supply of alcohol to members or guests.

When's the next flight to Qatar then?

Hangtime · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:13:20 PM »

In another thread I found Eagl's battle with the burglers to be chilling... and the ultimate final condemnation of a social system that prevents the protection of private property by deadly force. If the bad guys know you can't protect yourself, they have absolutely nothing to fear.. there is NO deterrent.

In this country, any burglar is fair game.

In England, it's the home owner that's fair game.

Toad · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:15:21 PM »

Nah, Hang... you just pull out your Webley and.... oh, wait...they took all the Webleys.

Curval · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:22:17 PM »

Careful guys...you are gonna get the thread deleted.

....oh wait...these are digs against the UK. It is only digs against Texas that cause threads to get whacked.

Nashwan · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:25:11 PM »

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Goodness me, they appear to be considering a "drinking banning order"as well.

Don't they already have such things in the US? (it's an option for a judge to ban an offender who's been convicted of 3 seperate alcohol related offences from drinking). I'm pretty sure I've read of US courts imposing such orders on offenders.

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In this country, any burglar is fair game.

In England, it's the home owner that's fair game.

No, under English law any level of force that's reasonable in the circumstances as the homeowner understands them to be, and proportionate to the threat he feels he faces, is legal. Up to and including lethal force.

As the government guidelines published a couple of years ago said:

"You are not expected to make fine judgments on the level of force you use in the heat of the moment. So long as you do only what you honestly and instinctively believe is necessary in the heat of the moment, that would be the strongest evidence of your acting lawfully and in self-defence."

Toad · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:25:58 PM »

No, no, no.

Digs against Texas are deserved because they are ignorant, arrogant Amereekans.

Digs against England are totally improper, unfair and not sporting, old chap.

Saintaw · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:53:04 PM »

lol
Sorry, couldn't help but laugh when I saw the thread title, bravo Beet!

Toad · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2006, 03:59:44 PM »

You'll be laughing when you're using your fingers to butter your croissant in the open air cafes on Picadilly Square, Frenchy!!!