Author Topic: jackall - and UK guys who like Westerns (Read 443 times)

beet1e · « **on:** March 25, 2006, 03:39:29 AM »

I'm going to be out all day, and just by chance I checked to see what the Saturday afternoon movie is on BBC2. Today's movie - The Alamo, starring John Wayne (1960)! Needless to say, I have set up my DVR to record it, and eagerly look forward to watching it this evening. Without googling anything, I know that Texas had a war with Mexico - in 1841 I believe - and this is a movie about the event. Hopefully, my thirst for knowledge will be quenched! Davie Crockett is in it! When I realised that, well, I just couldn't miss it!

Being BBC2, it will be uninterrupted by commercials. Had it been shown on C5, I would have edited them all out ahead of time anyway. I don't have that automatic filtration system that skuzzy has.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2006, 04:32:31 PM »

Good movie.

Not entirely historically accurate. But a good movie.

John Wayne had the set built for it and it still remains to ths day. I may bewrong but I seem to remember hearing the set is as visited as the Real Alamo.

Some good info on the event here

http://hotx.com/alamo/toc.html

And the Mexican side fo the story

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/alamex.htm

I have some other stuff but not the time as Im headed out the door for my Father in laws 80th BD party

beet1e · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2006, 05:01:41 PM »

Thanks Dred - I started watching it and watched about half of it, but I'm feeling a little tired - will watch the rest tomorrow. One of the things about many of those epic movies from c1960 is that they are rather drawn out and slow moving, a là wall-of-celluloid.

Got to the point where it just about looks as if Bowie, Crockett and Travis can all work together, and here come the Mexicans!

Waffle · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2006, 08:07:09 PM »

You're not missin much... They are still coming.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2006, 11:28:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
You're not missin much... They are still coming.

they arent as well dressed and we dont get to shoot at them anymore.

beet1e · « **Reply #5 on:** March 26, 2006, 08:03:41 AM »

Not a bad movie - watched the rest just now.

Kind of reminded me of the conflict at Rorke's Drift in Southern Africa, as seen in the 1964 movie, Zulu. In both cases a relatively small (less than 200) men defended a garrison against an incoming force of several thousand men: At the Alamo, 185 American frontiersmen fought against the Mexican force numbering some 7000 commanded by General Santa Anna. At Rorke's Drift, 150 regulars of the British Army defended the garrison against 4000 Zulu warriors.

Some interesting parallels between the two events, with the one important exception - the end result.

Thrawn · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2006, 08:18:13 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Some interesting parallels between the two events, with the one important exception - the end result.

Of course the fact that the Mexicans had firearms/cannon, while the Zulus had short stabbing spears is not an important exception because in that context you can't imply that the Yanks and/or Texians sucked.

beet1e · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2006, 08:37:08 AM »

The British Army had guns, and the Zulus had guns. I didn't see any cannon used in the Rorke's Drift conflict.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2006, 11:50:36 AM »

The latest release of the Alamo with Billy Bob Thortan and Denis Quade was surpisingly good IMHO.

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 26, 2006, 12:00:18 PM »

If you want to see a good John Wayne movie then see "the searchers" or... one of my favorites.... "the shootist"

lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2006, 12:03:58 PM »

The next Wayne movie I want to see is the "Sands of Iwo Jima" (1949). Is it true that this movie is shown to US Marines as part of their training?

lazs2 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2006, 12:12:25 PM »

don't know about that but the TV show "combat" was shown to those going to vietnam as being good tactical stuff... "Combat" was shown on bases in vietmnam.

You should rent the combat series... it is very good.

lazs

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 26, 2006, 11:31:06 PM »

If you really enjoy those types of movies Beetle, try the action out for yourself. I'm sure they'd make you welcome.

http://www.bwss.org.uk/

Gunslinger · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2006, 07:31:19 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
The next Wayne movie I want to see is the "Sands of Iwo Jima" (1949). Is it true that this movie is shown to US Marines as part of their training?

I can say that I NEVER once saw this movie in Recruit Training for the USMC. I can honestly say I never saw any movie at all while in recruit training.

FiLtH · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2006, 08:22:25 AM »

When I think of military discipline I think of Rourke's Drift. Those guys were incredible.