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Offline Goomba

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« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2006, 03:12:47 PM »
TY, Gentlemen.  

"Tacit permission" and "aqcuired rights"...exactly.  

They've been here for some period of time (all as a law-breaking criminal) so they must be "entitled".  If you ask me, the victim mentality and 'entitlements' will crush us all.

I'm afraid that it's not the votes of the illegals that our ever-lovin' "leaders" are after.  They want the bleeding-heart vote.

I'm not suggesting the liberal/conservative thing...I refer to those persons who simply don't think there should be limits at all.  Those who feel better about themselves for never saying 'No' to anybody.  Or those blissful souls who, without meaning harm, simply do not see how complex and intertwined these things are, and how unregulated, unenforced immigration WILL drain this country's resources.  I'm afraid that there are a LOT of uninformed voters like this.

You can't take out unless you put your full measure in, and stand to be accounted for.  Playing only part of the game don't count.

I only need to look as far as my own neighborhood:  The legal immigrants, Mexican, down the block from me are great people.  Two of the elders of the family have just been able to get their citizenship (after the requisite, what, 7 years?), and we threw a party.  OTOH, I was robbed by an illegal  immigrant.

It's about a kind of person, not nationalities.  Those who will ante up, square off, and kick in should be considered a national treasure.  We are a nation of leftovers, outcasts and mutts...and it makes us powerful.

Those who rationalize, lie, cheat, falsify, and take...can go back home with my boot in the...right direction.

If there is a reason that a man can't raise a family in  safety, and with a decent job, in his own homeland, then I say they need to go back and get the job done, not come here and demand what they have not earned.

I say it again....if you insist on breaking in the back window, when the front door is open...How in THE hell do you justify yourself?

It's like offering to shake a man's hand, and getting mugged for your trouble.

Offline Stringer

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« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2006, 04:20:16 PM »
My wife and her family came over here by the legal immigration route.

She's not too pleased to be seeing this crap on TV.

She even went through the naturalization process so she could vote.  Now, if I could get her to vote the same way I do, then we'd have real progress!!

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« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2006, 04:26:42 PM »
If there not working and they are commiting crimes send em back even though California,Arizona,New Mexico and Texas population would greatly decrease;)  they are stealing jobs from the REAL AMERICANS

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« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2006, 04:28:31 PM »
Raider,
They're doing jobs "real" Americans don't want to do.

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« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2006, 04:34:04 PM »
how do you know REAL AMERICANS  don't want to do those jobs

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« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2006, 04:35:08 PM »
That does not make it right, and is just a rationalization or excuse to avoid the issue.

If CA wants them to have all the perks of being an American, without becoming an American, then let's send all of the illegals to CA and let CA pay for all the items which the fed would pay for Americans.

Taking money from my family and giving it to those who do not pay taxes here,...well,....I am going to stop there as going any further would violate several forum rules we have.
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« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2006, 04:38:35 PM »
HEHEHE, Skuzzy just modded himself:lol
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« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2006, 04:42:33 PM »
Hey, if I cannot mod myself, who can?  :D
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« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2006, 04:42:48 PM »
The guys in India will be demanding to be let in saying they are doing jobs that the "real" Americans don't want to do, or there would not be so many jobs going to India, but alas, they don't have a common border with the U.S.


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2006, 04:46:24 PM »
The guys from India are already here

but most of them are probaly here LEGALLY

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« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2006, 05:25:27 PM »
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Originally posted by Thrawn
How in god's name did you not have a choice?


I was a fully certified FAA pilot, lost Work Visa after Sept11, illegal in USA, wishing to stay in USA, looking for a job. Tell me what I need to do to become legal? What are my choices?
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« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2006, 05:37:44 PM »
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I was a fully certified FAA pilot, lost Work Visa after Sept11, illegal in USA, wishing to stay in USA, looking for a job. Tell me what I need to do to become legal? What are my choices?


Yeah, I wanted to steal/kill/defraud  someone/something.  It was illegal but I wanted to do it, so what choice did I have.


You put your selfish desires over the laws of a country that was nice enough to host you for awhile.  You choice was to go back home or break the laws of that country.

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« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2006, 05:48:15 PM »
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Why would a politician give a rat's poop about what an illegal thinks?  It's not like they can vote.  I have a hard enough time getting the attention of a politician, and I CAN vote.  Sheesh.


Come on Skuzzy, you know better than that...the lobby guys.

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« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2006, 05:58:24 PM »
Because they'd be doing them right now....

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« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2006, 06:03:37 PM »
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
That does not make it right, and is just a rationalization or excuse to avoid the issue.

If CA wants them to have all the perks of being an American, without becoming an American, then let's send all of the illegals to CA and let CA pay for all the items which the fed would pay for Americans.

Taking money from my family and giving it to those who do not pay taxes here,...well,....I am going to stop there as going any further would violate several forum rules we have.


Was this directed at my comment, Skuzzy?


Don't get me wrong, I think this whole issue is a load of crap.  They're here illegally, and shouldn't get rights that legal residents of the US have, period.

But saying they are taking jobs from "real" Americans is a load of crap.  Last I looked the guys doing the work mowing lawns and landscaping around here are hispanic....now the guys that own those companies, they're white and are REAL AMERICANS....hiring guess what....ILLEGALS.

We frikkin' do this to ourselves every damn time......I'd be willing to wager that the guys that hire these illegals vote Republican.