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Offline EN4CER

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« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2006, 10:26:01 PM »
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Lol, 2nd person to mention 'realism' in this thread.
We are playing the same game here, aren't we?

Realism -
Perfect Summer days
No fog
No bad weather
No night
Min 75% fuel
1940 planes up against 1945 planes
Tigers flipped by a blade of grass
Tank rounds bouncing off M3's
Tank rounds stopped by a blade of grass
GV's hiding under bomb craters
Dive bombing Lancs / B17s

Yup sure sounds realistic to me.

We now return you to your scheduled 'Air Quake' available in the MA every day.

{edit} Forgot to answer original question - not in favour, all that should 'shake' is the sight.


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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2006, 10:49:33 PM »
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I love the headshake because it generates such sweet, sweet whines.

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Word.
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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2006, 11:57:16 PM »
Bronk: "Seam like a win the war land grabber wanting people to play like he wants. They want rock steady guns so they can snipe from farther out"

What does "land grabber" war winner have to do with headshake??

Secondly, there is no such thing as "sniping" when firing an AA gun at a fast moving target like an aircraft.  Someone might want to do a little research on AA guns and WWII.

P.S.  The word you're looking for is seem not seam;)

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« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2006, 12:06:33 AM »
Hey Moil, did you know there's a C in "disciplined"?
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« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2006, 12:22:20 AM »
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Lol, 2nd person to mention 'realism' in this thread.
We are playing the same game here, aren't we?

Realism -
Perfect Summer days
No fog
No bad weather
No night
Min 75% fuel
1940 planes up against 1945 planes
Tigers flipped by a blade of grass
Tank rounds bouncing off M3's
Tank rounds stopped by a blade of grass
GV's hiding under bomb craters
Dive bombing Lancs / B17s

Yup sure sounds realistic to me.

We now return you to your scheduled 'Air Quake' available in the MA every day.

{edit} Forgot to answer original question - not in favour, all that should 'shake' is the sight.


thing is habit seems to be everyone wants  things to be realistic only when it benifits them. Then everything gets pointed out from Rate of fire, to bullet trajectory to the number of flipping rivets there are on the wing of a given plane.

Yet
whenever something doesnt benifit them. They argue against it and point to these exact same things you just mentioned and more.

BTW, You forgot to mention Trees you cant fire out from the space between the trees when in a tank but can be fired into through the very same space between trees from outside the tree area from a tank. and the 10 foot bubble that seems to surround all trees you cant fire past when near them
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For those who wish to know
Ask those who have been before you
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« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2006, 09:42:49 AM »
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Bronk: "Seam like a win the war land grabber wanting people to play like he wants. They want rock steady guns so they can snipe from farther out"

What does "land grabber" war winner have to do with headshake??

Secondly, there is no such thing as "sniping" when firing an AA gun at a fast moving target like an aircraft.  Someone might want to do a little research on AA guns and WWII.

P.S.  The word you're looking for is seem not seam;)


Well SEEMS I hit a sore spot ehhh. So buffs are now furballers ehh? Hate to burst your big ego but it's not all about GVs.  And by snipe,  I have been picked off  1k out at a high 9oc from buffs. Why because the can zooom all the way in and have perfect sight picture.  If you put your eye that close to any gun sight its going to move . The closer you put it the bigger the movement seems.  Once again you now have what all fighters have had to deal with when zoomed all the way in. Sorry HT took your crutch away. Now go learn how to do it not zoomed in .


Ohh once again.
:cry :cry :cry

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« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2006, 10:08:46 AM »
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In Favor if we can compromise be removing the "randomization" of the osti-shots I have read about on other threads.  It seems it was put in to account for no shaking.  Now that it shakes, seems like overkill to me.

The spread of the Ostwinds shots are pretty drastic. The addition of the headshake, has made for more then just a challenging combination. It seems to be a bit excessive to overcome. I beleive a toned down version of the head shake, and / or a tightening up of the Ostie shot group could make for a viable AA weapon, with the touch of realism that most of us are looking for.

I am against the headshake in its current form.

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« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2006, 11:02:01 AM »
At first I thought it was horrible major drag to the gv's, but now i've learned to block it out.  The bullets still shoot the same with the same spread and accuracy pattern.  I don't feel it has restricted my ability to shoot down planes at all, last night I had 17 in a very short period of time 3 of which were 2.5 out.  It's hard to explain but you can block out the shake and just focus on the tracers.

So if this shake causes others to feel like they can't shoot accurately, great now I feel safer at every base I want to pork, bomb, or vulch.

I do feel like it's not cool that some people are feeling sick from it, that should never be a factor in any game.  But for every 10 people that complain about feeling sick from it probably only 1 really did.  The others are trying to use it as leverage to get there way.

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« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2006, 12:48:10 PM »
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Word.


Hey Toad, maybe you would be so kind to answer a question for me.  I guess I’m just of the wrong generation.  I have learned most of the acronyms used on-line and some of the slang used in today’s world.   So, in the common vernacular, what does “WORD” mean?  I’d like to see your definition to help with my understanding.  When a single word is used as a reply such as specious, tremendous, Nietzscheism, narcissistic, phenomenal, I understand those.  But “WORD” what does that really mean?  I’m not trying to be trite nor insincere.  Thank you in advance for the thoughtful reply and information I’m sure you will give me.  :D

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« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2006, 12:53:24 PM »
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Well SEEMS I hit a sore spot ehhh. So buffs are now furballers ehh? Hate to burst your big ego but it's not all about GVs.  And by snipe,  I have been picked off  1k out at a high 9oc from buffs. Why because the can zooom all the way in and have perfect sight picture.  If you put your eye that close to any gun sight its going to move . The closer you put it the bigger the movement seems.  Once again you now have what all fighters have had to deal with when zoomed all the way in. Sorry HT took your crutch away. Now go learn how to do it not zoomed in .

You were picked off because you were too close, holding steady and saying quack.

It's a big if right now, but what if bombers accommodate the shake?  What if they start shooting you as well as before the shake update?  What will you use for an excuse then?  Will you figure out you need to learn how to do it right or will you start whining about "buff lasers" again?  I think we can bet money on which it will be.

It's not the buffs guns that got you.  It's not the fighter plane you flew that killed you.  It was your lame skill set in attacking bombers that killed you.  There are fighter pilots in this game who've bothered to learn how to kill bombers.  I can't help but wonder what they must think of whiny little posts like yours.

Whether it be gv's, buff guns, or even something like a Spit-16 shooting you down, it won't matter.  You'll whine and applaud any change to the game that will hinder them.  :lol  Yeah, you're a great pilot.

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« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2006, 01:08:45 PM »
Chop I wasn't  holding position I was in a highspeed dive and was at high 9  when i was picked off.
Ohh and as far as my skill set I do ok against buffs. Only ones I realy have a problem with is 26s no idea why.
You still just pissed its equal now , can't have your sights zoomed all the way in and pick at 1k anymore whaaaa.



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« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2006, 01:21:44 PM »
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Well SEEMS I hit a sore spot ehhh. So buffs are now furballers ehh? Hate to burst your big ego but it's not all about GVs.  And by snipe,  I have been picked off  1k out at a high 9oc from buffs. Why because the can zooom all the way in and have perfect sight picture.  If you put your eye that close to any gun sight its going to move . The closer you put it the bigger the movement seems.  Once again you now have what all fighters have had to deal with when zoomed all the way in. Sorry HT took your crutch away. Now go learn how to do it not zoomed in .


Ohh once again.
:cry :cry :cry

Bronk


I could give a crap about the buffs.

Shooting an Osti is not like shooting a fighter. I can't kill a fighter with just a two second burst. I don't have 4 cannon or 8 machine guns. I can't get 200 off his six. I have to start shooting at 1.5K out. Most all shots are crossing shots. The Osti is also used against other GVs. To have a chance to be effective you have to fire zoomed in.


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t's hard to explain but you can block out the shake and just focus on the tracers.


Seems only certain people can SEE the bloody tracers. Unfortunately, I am not one of them.  And yes, I have played with monitor settings on the CRT to no avail.


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2006, 02:09:34 PM »
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Chop I wasn't  holding position I was in a highspeed dive and was at high 9  when i was picked off.
Ohh and as far as my skill set I do ok against buffs. Only ones I realy have a problem with is 26s no idea why.
You still just pissed its equal now , can't have your sights zoomed all the way in and pick at 1k anymore whaaaa.


Flying level or diving straight for the guns, it's all the same.  You're holding steady in the buffs sights.  If you were nailed at 1.0 in a dive, you weren't directly over the buffs and that's where you needed to be.

If you did okay with buffs before the shake update, that sounds like things were equal.  So now that it looks like buffs are in worse position it's still equal?!  The way it is now some guy can literally drive right up my six at coalt. with his trigger taped and expect to catch at least one of my buffs on fire before I can dismantle him.  This has been happening to my squad mates and I since the shake update.  Sound equal to you?

Fighters had the advantage before the shake update.  Now they don't even need to worry about skill beyond what it takes to get the fighter into the air.

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« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2006, 02:12:29 PM »
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Flying level or diving straight for the guns, it's all the same.  You're holding steady in the buffs sights.  If you were nailed at 1.0 in a dive, you weren't directly over the buffs and that's where you needed to be.

If you did okay with buffs before the shake update, that sounds like things were equal.  So now that it looks like buffs are in worse position it's still equal?!  The way it is now some guy can literally drive right up my six at coalt. with his trigger taped and expect to catch at least one of my buffs on fire before I can dismantle him.  This has been happening to my squad mates and I since the shake update.  Sound equal to you?

Fighters had the advantage before the shake update.  Now they don't even need to worry about skill beyond what it takes to get the fighter into the air.


Well 999000 blew my bellybutton away the other nite. Doesnt seem like his aim is hurting. Maybe youre just not good enough? Hmm.

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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2006, 02:16:46 PM »
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Well 999000 blew my bellybutton away the other nite. Doesnt seem like his aim is hurting. Maybe youre just not good enough? Hmm.


Well that settles this one. Seems to me chop its your skills in question now.





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