Who is the best?

[Shane]

After I called him a castrati, he started crying and hasn't been seen since....

[TalonX]

BigMax.   He has to be at the top, or at minimum, in the top 5.   I was lucky enough to be in his squad once.   He rocks.  I saw him CLIMB into 7 on coming fighters (in his Typh) and kill 5 before the other two departed.

I wish I had it filmed.   I never saw anything like that in AH.

[lazs2]

sirloin...  I have never "dueled" anyone...  I never really seen much point since it has nothing to do with the MA.   Never have... Players, good and bad... ask me all the time... To me it is like.... "let's go over to Il2 or warbirds and try that kind of fight"   I don't care about the DA or warbirds..  Also.. some think I can "teach" em something... I can't.  If I do something they think is good...  I really don't even know I am doing it nor would I know how to teach em to "feel" the fight.


I am easy to find tho.  Not even very good.   mostly newbies kill me in furballs... most "vets" these days only fly the horde in fast planes at alt.   I never really run into em unless I am taking off from a runway they are vultching.

I didn't duel wildthing either... I am not that interested in seeing his "move" over and over.   I have fought him in the ma after that tho... allways comes out the same.. he in a spit 5 or hurri with a little smash and me in an FM2... if he gets behind me I die... if I get behind him he dies.   think it is about 50/50 at this point... but... like I said, I am not very good..  only put in 15 or so hours a month.    I think I may have run into you too sirloin with about the same results.  

difference between you and wildthing is that wild will get into the thick of it with low e in a slow plane...  no matter what... I admire that... especially in todays arena.

As for guns.... I like guns tho.  have em and shoot em maybe we can go to the range some day?

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[Edbert1]

Originally posted by YUCCA
Any of you new bkr's actually ever see drex fly lol.

I lost the 2v2 to Scott (Drex) and SCOP at the con two consecutive years. Managed to kill each of them once but was never able to get both.

Speaking of names from the past where is SCOP (it stood for scorpion back when we only had 4 letter CPIDs) these days? He never made the switch from WB to AH back in 99. Most of the old-school WB'ers came on over in the next two years as the game stagnated, but I don't think he ever did.

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by YUCCA
Any of you new bkr's actually ever see drex fly lol.

Hurri vs F6, IIRC. Beat him like he owed me money. Lev booted him off the roster to make room for me, and I never saw him on again.

[TexMurphy]

Lol I beat two uber pilots with one stone...

Yucca in a 38 was ment....

Yucca in a 47
Ack-Ack in a 38

sometimes brain is faster then the fingers..

Tex

[Widewing]

There's two general classifications relating to the "best".

The "best" in the MA environment and the "best" 1 Vs 1.

These are vastly different, because they represent vastly different environments.

In one respect, 1 Vs 1 is easier because you need only keep track of one enemy. On the other hand, the competition is much, much better than the average MA pilot. Yet, in the MA, facing a dozen average pilots is often as  dangerous as facing a top tier 1 Vs 1 pilot.  

IMHO, the best pilots are the ones who excel in both environments. Drex could excel at both. There are perhaps two dozen players who excel at both.

As a trainer, I get to fly hundreds of duels every month. Many of the players of reputation have come to the TA and I'm always glad to see them as they break up the routine and provide a challenge. Some trainers join the dueling ladder, others do KOTH. I don't bother with any of those as I don't feel any need to prove anything. I rarely fly in the MA (I did last night, for one sortie) these days, but let my son-in-law fly on my machine and account once in a while, but only with my supervision. He got clobbered by the 56th FG the other night and managed to auger twice in about 5 minutes. He's another reason why I never check my scores...

Generally speaking, most of the official trainers and some of the volunteer trainers are top tier pilots. Guys like Nomak, Murdr, Yucca and Infensus are as good as anyone 1 Vs 1. Visitors such as Fester, Urchin, Creton, Timppa, Stang and others drop by the TA often and provide for outstanding duels amongst themselves and the trainers. The most fun I've ever had were on nights when the TA is full of good sticks dueling and furballing. With killshooter on in the DA, the TA is now the best place for this sort of fun.

So who is the best? Honestly, does it really matter? This game should be about having fun with friends, not a winkie measuring contest. Among the more skilled players, on any given night anyone of them could win or lose. What I consider the deciding factor is attitiude. Being among the best, and yet still humble, polite and courteous, that's what establishes a guy as a great player to me. And if anyone needed an example of that kind of player, I'd simply point to Drex or Todd or Yucca or BigMax and so on.

My regards,

Widewing

[Casca]

Originally posted by Shane
After I called him a castrati, he started crying and hasn't been seen since....

Perhaps he's sensitive about grammer.  Castrati is the plural form.  One castrato.  Two or more castrati.

[Nomak]

Originally posted by Widewing
......So who is the best? Honestly, does it really matter? This game should be about having fun with friends, not a winkie measuring contest. Among the more skilled players, on any given night anyone of them could win or lose. What I consider the deciding factor is attitiude. Being among the best, and yet still humble, polite and courteous, that's what establishes a guy as a great player to me. And if anyone needed an example of that kind of player, I'd simply point to Drex or Todd or Yucca or BigMax and so on.

My regards,

Widewing

Very well said.

Dave

[Grits]

Originally posted by Widewing
Being among the best, and yet still humble, polite and courteous, that's what establishes a guy as a great player to me. And if anyone needed an example of that kind of player, I'd simply point to Drex or Todd or Yucca or BigMax and so on.

My regards,

Widewing

This is probably the most true statement I have read on this BBS. Those guys let their flying do their talking.

[Nomak]

FWIW.....  

I can only speak for myself of course but I have found that worrying about and striving to "Be the Best" can actually be overly consuming and a bit destructive to players' state of mind in relation to the game.  I know because I have been through it.  

More years than I care to count my only goal in the game was to be the best 1v1 pilot around.  When anyone spoke about me I wanted people to say "Holy crap can that guy fly"  Yes...... alot of Ego involved here.

So that became my only focus.  Hundreds and hundreds.......no.... thousands probably...... of hours dueling (and dying).  Months of frustration followed by major break through's followed by more months of frustration.  

It becomes so encompasing that you lose track of why you are playing the game in the first place.  It becomes so competitive that its almost work to sit down and play.  Once this type of thing becomes the norm then you find yourself doing/saying things that you would normally never do.  Everything becomes a bit "Twisted".  I found myself in heated confrontations with other players over nothing, absolutely nothing. Etc Etc Etc........

Did I achieve the goal?  Well..... at one time I can honestly say I believe I was the best 1v1 pilot around.  It didnt last though.  You see I had myself so wound up (mentally) that I couldnt sustain that level of play.  Multiple meltdowns followed.....  many of which I am not proud of.  All a product of taking the game way to serious.  Which is IMO a product of having an obsessive goal to achieve.

Some guys are nothing short of magic behind the stick.  I always was very envious of players who I felt could just turn it on at will.  Money players.  Guys who are automatic all the time.  Leviathn is one WldThing is another.... there are a few more.  I had to work at it full time.  I mean every night in the DA to get and stay sharp enough to be in the catagory of "One of the Best"  I could never just turn it on at will.

The point of all of this rambling nonsense is that for alot of players I believe that it can literally wreck the game for them.  I think one of the people who posted in this thread is on the same road that I was.  I can see the signs.  

The game is about fun.  Make friends, tell some jokes and if the stars are aligned right land a couple nice snapshots.  It took me since tour 19 to figure that out  

Dont sweat the small stuff..... just fly.

Dave

[Redd]

Originally posted by Edbert1
I lost the 2v2 to Scott (Drex) and SCOP at the con two consecutive years. Managed to kill each of them once but was never able to get both.

Speaking of names from the past where is SCOP (it stood for scorpion back when we only had 4 letter CPIDs) these days? He never made the switch from WB to AH back in 99. Most of the old-school WB'ers came on over in the next two years as the game stagnated, but I don't think he ever did.

Scop was a very handy Hellcat pilot wasn t he , haven't seen him around for a long long time.

[Shane]

Originally posted by Casca
Perhaps he's sensitive about grammer.  Castrati is the plural form.  One castrato.  Two or more castrati.

since you never find a BK alone....

[AKDogg]

One thing I always say to myself that there is always somebody better then U in this world via here in the game or in real life.  Always remember that u are generally never the best.  There will always be someone better.

[Brenjen]

Originally posted by MwDogg
One thing I always say to myself that there is always somebody better then U in this world via here in the game or in real life.  Always remember that u are generally never the best.  There will always be someone better.

 Amen brother! I believe the same, I also believe in a "put my head down & charge regardless of the consequences" type of life. I do it here in the game as well as my life, I ain't beat till I'm beat, & then you'll have to beat me again & again every time we meet because one day, this dog will have his day.

 I am really grateful I have a new plane or tank every time I end up in the tower though, it's a much quicker healing process than in real life.