Author Topic: Loose Cannons - and the future of Aces High (Read 28608 times)

GooseAW · « **Reply #285 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:41:28 PM »

I can sum it all up I think...in between roaring laghter....

If you don't like what I or anyone else is doing, man up and come stop me!

If you can't...whine to HT and maybe one day.....he'll change the game to please YOU!.....

Hoarach · « **Reply #286 on:** April 04, 2006, 02:21:16 PM »

Well rooks rolled in wave after wave after wave of countless buffs into what I believe was a6. Some of them were LCA members and they just keep sending buffs, no fighters just buffs. Within that hour I had to of seen at least 50 boxes of buffs total. They had knocked down every hanger many times and still didnt take the base. Sure each person that upped to defend got their share of kills but there was just to many to shoot down and some seeped in and some just went higher to avoid us.

indy007 · « **Reply #287 on:** April 04, 2006, 02:24:16 PM »

Hoarach, check your email please

Hangtime · « **Reply #288 on:** April 04, 2006, 03:06:59 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Bite me.

I'm reminded of the ungrateful masses of undocumented aliens, who; once they arrived, decided to make their new country look, sound and smell just like the craphole they left.

Charming guests to have about, ain't they?

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #289 on:** April 04, 2006, 03:17:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
I'm reminded of the ungrateful masses of undocumented aliens, who; once they arrived, decided to make their new country look, sound and smell just like the craphole they left.

Charming guests to have about, ain't they?

Is that supposed to be some kind of ethnic slur directed at me? Why would you even make such a low-brow remark?

The point about the origin of AH has been belabored often enough in this BBS. AW begat WB. WB begat AH. There are players here, myself included, who have been along for the entire ride. Hardly refugees, more like the mainstay.

No one has said to make AH2 like AW, but you can't ignore the roots because some things have indeed carried over. Nor can you dismiss AW the game as a failure because AW the business (corrupted by NewsCorp and then EA) failed.

Simaril · « **Reply #290 on:** April 04, 2006, 03:26:31 PM »

Now that I think about it, I cant imagine a more sharp-tongued quick-witted bile spewing matchup that Hangtime vs DoKGonZo.

Bill Russell vs Michael Jordan...

Ought to make the typical flame war look like a couple 1st graders trading "your momma" jokes.

(...ok, that is exactly what a typical flame was turns into, but I digress)....

Hangtime · « **Reply #291 on:** April 04, 2006, 04:01:18 PM »

Take if any way yah like it Doc. Fly what yah like, fly it any way yah like. Yer nickel or mine; carries the same weight in the game.

Fact remains.. this game on it's first day was signifcantly better than AirWeenies on it's last; and while the quality of gameplay has certainly suffered since AirWeezer croaked, it's sure not because of the quality of this program.

Now, I don't for a second assume that you personally are in any way responsible for the deterioration of the neighborhood... however; if yer miffed because the original community looks upon the the newcomers with disdain and contempt thanks to the whiney nature of the majority of the refugees...

well; if the shoe fits up there; so be it.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #292 on:** April 04, 2006, 04:25:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Hoarach
Well rooks rolled in wave after wave after wave of countless buffs into what I believe was a6. Some of them were LCA members and they just keep sending buffs, no fighters just buffs. Within that hour I had to of seen at least 50 boxes of buffs total. They had knocked down every hanger many times and still didnt take the base. Sure each person that upped to defend got their share of kills but there was just to many to shoot down and some seeped in and some just went higher to avoid us.

Well no one told me about that attack!!! WOW! I missed the opportunity to down lotsa buffs? Ya know, it hurts ta miss that kinda action!!! Talk about target rich environment!

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #293 on:** April 04, 2006, 04:39:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Take if any way yah like it Doc. Fly what yah like, fly it any way yah like. Yer nickel or mine; carries the same weight in the game.

Fact remains.. this game on it's first day was signifcantly better than AirWeenies on it's last; and while the quality of gameplay has certainly suffered since AirWeezer croaked, it's sure not because of the quality of this program.

Now, I don't for a second assume that you personally are in any way responsible for the deterioration of the neighborhood... however; if yer miffed because the original community looks upon the the newcomers with disdain and contempt thanks to the whiney nature of the majority of the refugees...

well; if the shoe fits up there; so be it.

You're mixing apples and road flares.

AH is clearly more better in every technical regard.

But your assumption that some of the recent AW converts are "refugees" is really not correct. I know a lot of the old community (incl. those who moved on to WB) stayed pretty cohessive on BBS's, mailing lists, etc. And that's what's bringing a lot of the folks back - that's how I got back in. And many of "us" were part of the "original" AH community. Like many virtual pilots, though, we wander off to pursue other things.

And, whiney or not, that's what makes AH so unique is that it is tapping into a community that's existed for close to two decades. That says a lot about HTC in that they were able to keep so much of the loyal following of the genre. You calling them/us "refugees" is inappropriate - if for no other reason that many of us were here first.

And you also highlight one reason that AH is different than AW. You're not blaming me personally for all this. In AW I got blamed for everything; only half the time was it justified. OK. Two thirds.

Hoarach · « **Reply #294 on:** April 04, 2006, 04:55:00 PM »

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Originally posted by indy007
Hoarach, check your email please

Sent and replied.

Hangtime · « **Reply #295 on:** April 04, 2006, 05:08:44 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo

And, whiney or not, that's what makes AH so unique is that it is tapping into a community that's existed for close to two decades. That says a lot about HTC in that they were able to keep so much of the loyal following of the genre. You calling them/us "refugees" is inappropriate - if for no other reason that many of us were here first.

Who's 'tapping' who, Doc? I kinda liked it when yer community, et al; was someplace else. And, yah can lighten up with the PC double speak.. refugees is appropriate; if AW was still running then we wouldn't be having this lil conversation.

But yer right about one thing.. it does speak a lot about HiTec & Crew that we are still here.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #296 on:** April 04, 2006, 05:30:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Who's 'tapping' who, Doc? I kinda liked it when yer community, et al; was someplace else. And, yah can lighten up with the PC double speak.. refugees is appropriate; if AW was still running then we wouldn't be having this lil conversation.

But yer right about one thing.. it does speak a lot about HiTec & Crew that we are still here.

Well "AW still running" is, again, open to a wide range of interpretations. Ditto for WarBirds ... is that still running? ... or did Mild Swill turn it into some kind of online poker game or something?

The core of people who contribute a lot - and I mean a LOT - of their personal time to help make AH better are the old-timers. Testing things, doing research, running scenarios, doing artwork, compiling sound packs, etc. etc. You may want to think about that before you dump on such folks with your generalizations.

Hangtime · « **Reply #297 on:** April 04, 2006, 06:13:42 PM »

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Well "AW still running" is, again, open to a wide range of interpretations. Ditto for WarBirds ... is that still running? ... or did Mild Swill turn it into some kind of online poker game or something?

geeze.. there yah go; all Al Gore PC on me again... 'interpetations' ain't required. No lines to read between in what I'm posting.

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The core of people who contribute a lot - and I mean a LOT - of their personal time to help make AH better are the old-timers. Testing things, doing research, running scenarios, doing artwork, compiling sound packs, etc. etc. You may want to think about that before you dump on such folks with your generalizations.

And, they ain't the guys that I'm refering too.. which I'm certain is perfectly clear.... but you still keep going there like they happen to be your[/b] credentials or something. This a dick measuring contest suddenly? Shall I trot out where my name is on the short list of folks that came here and stayed from beta day one? The longer list of folks that ponied up full price on opening hour? The Scenario's, special events and game play issues worked on in this sim, long before AW croaked..

Lets assume that yer dick in this game is bigger than mine.. if so; what's yer beef? My dim view of the curtain hangers?

Tuff beans, Doc. NO PC BS here.. just callin it like I see it. Used to be when CM staff put up a call for bodies and suggestions for CO's to man an event they got respect and help. After watching for just a few days the crap tossed from the peanut gallery in their general direction, gotta say; don't think much of what 'your' guys have done with the place.

...and on that note; I bow to your superior numbers; and concede..

It's pretty much AW now.

GooseAW · « **Reply #298 on:** April 04, 2006, 06:18:31 PM »

Wouldn't it be interesting to see how many of us came from AW? Me thinks the numbers would be surprising to some......

Hangtime · « **Reply #299 on:** April 04, 2006, 06:24:01 PM »

A LOTTA guys.. and quite a few are a credit to the genre. Not all of 'em crap where they sleep.