Author Topic: Loose Cannons - and the future of Aces High (Read 25615 times)

Delirium · « **Reply #60 on:** March 29, 2006, 09:12:37 AM »

I never understood the fun in dropping a toolshed of any kind and I absolutely hate having to play that game (ie: form a coalition to kill ord at every base, everywhere).

Simply put, toolshedders have the ability to negatively affect furballers gameplay but the reverse isn't true.

You aren't 'uber' for taking 15-30 guys and leveling a field, its hording and it is hording things that can't even fight back.

When is the last time you saw a Fighter Hanger use

guy who killed me

I'm not advocating the removal of the land grab, just keep me out of it. Unfortunately, those that like to level a field do it where the furball is because furballing is 'wasting the countries resources'.

Then again, I'm sick... both mentally and (now) physically.

Simaril · « **Reply #61 on:** March 29, 2006, 09:26:58 AM »

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Then again, I'm sick... both mentally and (now) physically.

Kidding aside ... you OK?

Delirium · « **Reply #62 on:** March 29, 2006, 10:13:40 AM »

No, I'm not doing too well since last weekend... but I don't want to hijack this thread.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #63 on:** March 29, 2006, 10:38:59 AM »

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Simply put, toolshedders have the ability to negatively affect furballers gameplay but the reverse isn't true.

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I totally agree. Toolshedders affect everyone except FT negatively - and they toolshed in FT too, for what reason I don't know. I'd say at least 20% of the enemy planes that enter Rook airspace are shooting up the outhouses. I'm not exagerating either. I am "forced" to deal with that game any time I want to fly. And that activity is constantly justified and rationalized in this BBS as "helping the team." Every time I suggest that ground assets be hardened against cannon fire that gets twisted into "you want to remove all strat targets."

However, there *is* a difference between a country-wide policy of toolshedding every base within 3 sectors of the front lines, and targeting a specific base or two which are threatening your front for a logistical strike and launching a coordinated mission against them.

Likewise there *is* a difference between sending formation after formation of NOE suicide bomber attacks to kill FH at a base, and launching a coordinated mission which does the job in one swipe with minimal losses.

And there *is* a difference between just piling onto the furball/vultchfest of a stalled base capture attempt, and launching a coordinated mission to either close the deal (kill town, deliver troops) or suppress the defending fighter assets (kill FH).

And there *is* a difference between using the intel that the game provides (bar-dar, etc.) to plan missions (and take you chances), and resorting to using spy accounts to make your plans with.

It is rare when an LCA mission has more than a dozen or so people joining it. Usually that happens for a big B24 or B17 raid, or something weird like a mass Ju87 or C47 run. I think the only time I see anything close to 30 is the big bomber runs.

ColKLink · « **Reply #64 on:** March 29, 2006, 11:10:29 AM »

if aw kept you interested for more than 5 mins, that says alot to me.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #65 on:** March 29, 2006, 11:52:32 AM »

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if aw kept you interested for more than 5 mins, that says alot to me.

Was that directed at me?

Arlo · « **Reply #66 on:** March 29, 2006, 11:59:56 AM »

I think it was. I think Col. A.D.D. wants to wrassle. I could be wrong. But why risk it? Launch a pre-emptive.

Schutt · « **Reply #67 on:** March 29, 2006, 12:24:38 PM »

Isnt big mission against big mission in friday squad ops and in sunday close escort ?

Also freebirds do some pretty cool missions and did so for a long time now.

Its good if you like it, so go on. But i really dont see anything new and in 4 month no one will care anymore.

Lye-El · « **Reply #68 on:** March 29, 2006, 12:52:46 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo

And there *is* a difference between just piling onto the furball/vultchfest of a stalled base capture attempt, and launching a coordinated mission to either close the deal (kill town, deliver troops) or suppress the defending fighter assets (kill FH).

True that.

NoBaddy · « **Reply #69 on:** March 29, 2006, 01:10:25 PM »

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Originally posted by ColKLink
if aw kept you interested for more than 5 mins, that says alot to me.

...and if it didn't keep you interested for more than 5 minutes.......it says even more about you.

JB42 · « **Reply #70 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:58:35 PM »

You're right Slappy, I can't explain Guppy's statement, I can't figure where he is coming up with his remarks.
First comment he implies I'm demanding something of him. Nowhere in my first statement do I demand anything. Actually, to the contrary, I offer choices.
Second, he wants tool-sheeders to stay out of FT, then asks why him flying there MAKES people fly to FT. By asking tool-sheeders to stay out of FT is demanding they play a certain way. It has nothing to do with whether you or anyone for that matter is there.

Look, my point was this, the Furball vs. Toolshed discussion is old, boring, old, stale, old and used up. Did I mention it was old?

I don't agree with capturing Tank or Fighter Towns, but I really can't control that. I highly highly doubt posting this on the BBS is going to change anything either. This isn't beating a dead horse, this is pounding on the ground above a buried horse. Move On!!!

SlapShot · « **Reply #71 on:** March 29, 2006, 07:04:31 PM »

By asking tool-sheeders to stay out of FT is demanding they play a certain way.

Come on now. Nobody has demanded anything. We have consistently ASKED to stay the hell out of FT. It's just 3 small bases in the total scheme of things. Is it too hard to ask that that area be left alone ... I don't think so, but the toolshedders want to somehow justify their lameness and griefery by trying to imply that those bases are integral in the "win the war" effort. Nice try.

Look, my point was this, the Furball vs. Toolshed discussion is old, boring, old, stale, old and used up. Did I mention it was old?

Yes it is ... so if the toolshedders stay the hell out of FT and TT ... guess what ... it all goes away. Furballers would have nothing the say if that were true. The ball is in their court.

I don't agree with capturing Tank or Fighter Towns, but I really can't control that.

Glad you agree and nobody was/is expecting you to control it. It has to be a group effort.

I highly highly doubt posting this on the BBS is going to change anything either. This isn't beating a dead horse, this is pounding on the ground above a buried horse.

Thats too bad you think like that ... discussion could lead to education, which could eventually lead to a solution. If you don't like the content of the thread ... don't read or post to it ... nobody is forcing you to.

Move On!!!

Yeah right ... maybe the JBs will snap their heels for you when barking such commands/demands ... don't expect the rest of us to.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #72 on:** March 29, 2006, 07:14:08 PM »

I was pissed when the Bish captured all of the FT's bases on the Donut map. Lazer and a few others sparked a bolt of lightning. I PM'd RacrX and WMLute. I never flinched, and 3 hours later Rooks were escorting Knight goons. Not ONE Knight fell to a Rook involved.

I never came in here and whined, carry on, etc. I posted a Congratulatory post to those that participated in the "Famous First this had happened".
Personally, I wish I could have been there (I guess Rooks took it), because I would have switched sides to whoever at the time had the least amount of numbers and pitch in.

Karaya

wetrat · « **Reply #73 on:** March 29, 2006, 07:27:35 PM »

So toolshedding in a horde is something new to AH? How long have you been here? 2 months? Maybe it's new to you, but your "strategies" were in use in AH1. I still don't understand why people get such a hardon for bombing things that can't shoot back. Bombing GV's I can understand... it isn't my idea of fun, but I can see how someone would enjoy it. Hangars? WTF, I just don't get it, and I never will. Path of least resistance, I guess. If you can't fight, bomb. It takes years to actually become good in a fighter, and hours to learn how to toolshed. Path of least resistance. Figures.

Zazen13 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 29, 2006, 08:51:27 PM »

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So toolshedding in a horde is something new to AH? How long have you been here? 2 months? Maybe it's new to you, but your "strategies" were in use in AH1. I still don't understand why people get such a hardon for bombing things that can't shoot back. Bombing GV's I can understand... it isn't my idea of fun, but I can see how someone would enjoy it. Hangars? WTF, I just don't get it, and I never will. Path of least resistance, I guess. If you can't fight, bomb. It takes years to actually become good in a fighter, and hours to learn how to toolshed. Path of least resistance. Figures.

That's exactly it. I took a look at all the Loose Cannons online the past two days. Not one of them is even remotely close to being worth a watermelon in a fighter. So, naturally they decide to ruin the fun for those that are good in a fighter, instead of working at becoming better themselves...makes perfect sense....

Zazen