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« on: March 29, 2006, 05:01:50 PM »
BUSH'S FAULT! (Maybe he read Beet1e's post? )

Wednesday, March 29, 2006
 WASHINGTON — The government is telling automakers to start churning out pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles and vans that go farther on a gallon of gas than today's models.

New fuel economy rules, covering 2008 through 2011, are being issued to the auto industry amid growing public concern about U.S. dependence on foreign sources of oil and rising pump prices.

The new rules represent the most significant changes to the Corporate Average Fuel Economy system in three decades and will affect automakers' product lineup. They follow President Bush's declaration that the U.S. is "addicted to oil." Bush has called for a 75 percent reduction in Mideast oil imports by 2025.

The new rules do not apply to passenger cars, which must meet a 27.5 mile per gallon average.

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta was announcing the rule changes Wednesday.

Under the CAFE system, automakers now must meet an average of 21.6 mpg for their 2006 model year light trucks. That average will rise to 22.2 mpg for 2007 vehicles.

Changes first proposed last summer would lead to a projected fleetwide average of 24 mpg by 2011, though the final rules could require higher standards.

Automakers probably would need to meet fuel economy targets based on their mix of vehicles.

Environmental groups have pressed for the higher standards and urged that the rules start applying to large trucks and sport utility vehicles such as the Hummer H2 and Chevrolet Suburban.

"The fact that fuel prices have increased and more importantly, fuel price forecasts have increased since the proposal was developed suggests a stronger standard is warranted," said Eric Haxthausen, an economist with Environmental Defense.

Environmentalists want the Bush administration to improve upon last summer's proposal's projected savings of 10 billion gallons of oil over the lifetime of the vehicles sold from 2008-11.

The administration said it would save more fuel than any previous rulemaking in the history of the light truck program, but the groups said it only amounted to a few weeks worth of oil consumption.

"The president is the one who said we're addicted to oil. This is his most important tool to curb that addiction," said Dan Becker, who directs the Sierra Club's global warming and energy program.

The proposal from last summer also would phase out a single standard for light trucks and create different mileage goals for six categories of vehicles. Industry groups said the new plan may call for more specific fuel economy standards based on a vehicle's dimensions.

Automakers have noted that the final plan will likely mean seven straight years of higher fuel economy requirements for light trucks. The industry has fought previous attempts to raise the standards but has expressed support for the proposal's direction.

U.S. automakers such as General Motors Corp. (GM) and Ford Motor Co. (GM) have said the current system hurts them against the competition because sales of large SUVs must be offset by the sale of smaller light trucks to comply with fuel economy rules.

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2006, 05:07:10 PM »
Was there a point to this?

Less dependence on foreign oil is a bad thing?

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2006, 05:21:03 PM »
The Cartman factor:
If hippies like it, I'm against it

Generally a good rule to life by & possibly the strongest defining force in modern American politics

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2006, 05:36:23 PM »
if that 6 stroke engine gets into production vehicles...

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2006, 05:46:23 PM »
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Was there a point to this?

Less dependence on foreign oil is a bad thing?

You missed the sarcasm, everyone blames evil Bush for everything from diaper rash to flooded buses in N.O.  I just thought I'd blame him for goodness too. ;)

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2006, 05:51:42 PM »
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006
WASHINGTON — The government is telling automakers to start churning out pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles and vans that go farther on a gallon of gas than today's models.



Hmmm, centrally planned economy...where have I heard of that before....?

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2006, 05:59:22 PM »
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Hmmm, centrally planned economy...where have I heard of that before....?


CAFE standards have been around since 1975  The Act was passed in response to the 1973-74 Arab oil embargo. The near-term goal was to double new car fuel economy by model year 1985.

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2006, 06:08:25 PM »
I still stand firm and say Screw the Middle East and find another alternative.  Hybrids are NOT a fix.  

Regarding the Escape, sweet it is great in the city, it sucks on the highway.  Toyota still pwns (Ford collaborates with them).
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2006, 06:57:37 PM »
TO me this is laughable.  Trucks/Suvs are just a precentage of oil consumption.  Think of everything that is made from anytype of real plastic.  all the food products that come in plastic containters and plastic bags.  All the consumber electronics that have plastic in them.  The MILLIONS of grocery store bags that are made everyday.

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No matter what you do Oil is still going to be the engine that fuels our economy.  The quickest way to reduce dependency is to produce our own and research new ways  to produce energy.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2006, 07:02:33 PM »
I have wanted to see a pie chart on oil usage by category/industry...preferably one that wasn't made by Greenpeace:rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2006, 07:08:16 PM »
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CAFE standards have been around since 1975  The Act was passed in response to the 1973-74 Arab oil embargo. The near-term goal was to double new car fuel economy by model year 1985.



So this particular brand of communism has been around for over 30 years?  Wow.

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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2006, 07:28:34 PM »
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So this particular brand of communism has been around for over 30 years?  Wow.


yup,  I'm wondering if the govt is going to suppliment the auto industry with there increased costs due to govt regulations.

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2006, 07:31:51 PM »
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TO me this is laughable.  Trucks/Suvs are just a precentage of oil consumption.  Think of everything that is made from anytype of real plastic.  all the food products that come in plastic containters and plastic bags.  All the consumber electronics that have plastic in them.  The MILLIONS of grocery store bags that are made everyday.

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No matter what you do Oil is still going to be the engine that fuels our economy.  The quickest way to reduce dependency is to produce our own and research new ways  to produce energy.


Paper bags, etc.  Think Gun, think.  The Middle East CAN be made worthless, we have to care enough to make the switch.

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2006, 09:01:01 PM »
I have yet to see the branch of the Federal government that has the knowledge necessary to mandate useful, reasonable, and intelligent fuel economy standards. This is yet another "feel good" law, meant to show the millions of mindless minions that "we're doing something". The unintended consequences  from this stupidity will be monumental to say the least.
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