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Offline Debonair

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« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2006, 04:51:05 PM »
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....Fast forward now.
Go to virually any beach on a hot summer day and you will see people dressed in bikinis, and string bikinis. and in some places even less...


progress is not profanity
skateboarding is not a crime
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« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2006, 06:30:11 PM »
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progress is not profanity
skateboarding is not a crime
i like ike


One persons progress is anothers regression
Same thing could be said about the language.
While some wouldnt see it as progress. Its a part that comes with it.
As someone else mentioned the language is simply changing with the times

While I dont have any problems with the bathing suit issue either.
50 years ago such displays by many would have been considered just as profane,vulgar and obscene as this language issue is here now.
Even using words back then as minor as "Damn it" would have raised a few eyebrows
Hell even saying "Damn" or "Go to hell" on TV was considered a big nono as recently as 30 years ago

And had I made the same arguement I make now 50 years ago. someone else would have come along with the "reasonable man" arguement.
Yet here we are. Such things that were considered by the moral majority as being lewd,profane,vulgar and obscene. Are now considered no big deal. and now go almost unnoticed. (Course if they didnt look so good they probably wouldnt be noticed at all)

Finally. there is no such thing as the "reasonable man"
Typically people who my seem reasonable on one issue can be totally unreasonable about another. LOL Just look as the arguements between Laz and Beetle on guns.

Whether your  reasonable or not depends on the crowd your with, and if they agree with your line of reasoning

No there has only ever been one reasonable man. (though Im sure his opponents at the time would probably have argued otherwise) and he got nailed to a cross for his troubles.
Everyone since has merely been a wannabe;)
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« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2006, 08:02:24 AM »
the "reasonable man" idea is not that there is one man who is reasonable... it is simply that the majority of the people would think something reasonable.

morality can change over time... it does not change based on what is the most that the lowest among us will tollerate tho.   It can go either way tho... the roaring 20's for example.   Prostitution has been accepted more in the past as a legal activity also.

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« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2006, 08:15:29 AM »
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the "reasonable man" idea is not that there is one man who is reasonable... it is simply that the majority of the people would think something reasonable.

morality can change over time... it does not change based on what is the most that the lowest among us will tollerate tho.   It can go either way tho... the roaring 20's for example.   Prostitution has been accepted more in the past as a legal activity also.

lazs


Then you would agree with the quote I mentioned in the thread on the guy they were going to execute in Afghanistan that "Nothing is truely right or wrong. It is merely a common way of thinking that makes it so."
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« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2006, 08:16:41 AM »
I would not say that a reasonable man would think that executing him was just.

Just because a few fanatics think so is not good enough reason.  They may even be a local majority... that does not make it reasonable.

But then... we are talking internationaly in that example.   Do you wish to take the entire world or just the U.S.?

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« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2006, 12:05:19 PM »
So, basically, there are some laws that say you can't curse and use foul language in public in the US - home of the free.

We can't own handguns here. We can curse all we want though. And publish cartoons of The Prophet. Levels the playing ground a little right there.

Foul language has a place and anyone assuming that one using foul language is an idiot is a bigger fool him or herself.

Say three weeks ago, I was out swooping. Hooked it around a 180, perfect timing. Was skimming over the ground at 70km/h or so. Canopy sank a little, I bounced on the ground (snow), up into the air and had a rather interesting flight afterwards.

Translated, my first sentence was something like this:

"**** dude, are you ****ting me that was close! ****ing **** man!".

The response from my freefly buddy was worse.

Not language I'd use at work but very appropriate for the situation