How effective are dive bombing buffs? Are they really a problem?

[MOIL]

Docc:
"its no wonder that vulching is so easy and field defense is so poor. IRL there was a lot more than 3 guns shooting at any plane that dived on a field and most were accurate at longer ranges (88s)"
Yup:aok

WWII fact: More planes were down from AA fire than another plane.

[ChopSaw]

We seem to have come off topic here and that's okay.  It happens with all threads.  I just wanted to thank those that gave input in response to the initiating post.

[dedalos]

Effective in capturing?  Proly not.

Effective in stoping a fight?  YES!

When only 2 FHs are up and there is no capture attemt, there are no osties on the ground (since no enemy plains are vulching or trying to cap).  So, diving in and droping, even as you die, will take the last FHs (or the CV) down and stop the fight.  Mission acomplished.

If you really want to know how effective they are, ask an expert like 999.  Only, he does not really dive bomb the CVs.  He flies level over the deck (so technicly it is not dive bombing) and drops his bombs as he dies in the puffy ack.  He will die 10 times in a row, but eventually, the CV will go down.  Mission acomplished.

[ChopSaw]

Originally posted by dedalos
Effective in capturing?  Proly not.

Effective in stoping a fight?  YES!

When only 2 FHs are up and there is no capture attemt, there are no osties on the ground (since no enemy plains are vulching or trying to cap).  So, diving in and droping, even as you die, will take the last FHs (or the CV) down and stop the fight.  Mission acomplished.

If you really want to know how effective they are, ask an expert like 999.  Only, he does not really dive bomb the CVs.  He flies level over the deck (so technicly it is not dive bombing) and drops his bombs as he dies in the puffy ack.  He will die 10 times in a row, but eventually, the CV will go down.  Mission acomplished.

While he may eventually kill the CV, I have to ask myself where the fighter support is.  Ten times he comes in?

When I take a CV down it is from a minimum of 8K and is usually 10-14K.  With B-24's I can take two CV's in one sortie and still land.  Compared to ten sorties for one CV and dying every time?  I'd say my method was more effective.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by ChopSaw
While he may eventually kill the CV, I have to ask myself where the fighter support is.  Ten times he comes in?

When I take a CV down it is from a minimum of 8K and is usually 10-14K.  With B-24's I can take two CV's in one sortie and still land.  Compared to ten sorties for one CV and dying every time?  I'd say my method was more effective.

They are there.  why do you think he dies so many times.  5" is useless because it explodes on the friendlies, until he gets close.