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[EN4CER]

LONGMONT, Colo. - More than two dozen students walked out of Skyline High School Friday morning to protest what they say is a ban that doesn't allow the American flag to be flown on school grounds.

The Principal said that the ban isn't just on American flags - it's on all flags (Know my enemy: The Socialist Liberal).

Several students who walked out of class Friday said that they were upset that Mexican flags can be waved around but that American flags couldn't. They said that school officials confiscated their American flags because they have become inflammatory because of recent immigration issues.

Just when you think it can’t get any worse it does. I must be losing my mind – where is this country heading. Since when is patriotism a bad thing? Old Glory gets burned and disgraced all around the world – Illegal Immigrants here don’t even want to carry her – they carry their National Flag – and our own citizens are not allowed to carry her? What’s wrong with this picture?

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[beet1e]

If you find the answer, let me know. We have all this crap in Britain too.

[Jackal1]

"Skyline Principal Tom Stumpf said that the school enacted a ban this week that prohibits students to display, wear or fly any flag -- American or Mexican."

Priceless.
I believe ole Tom just may be in for some restless nights. Well done moron.
A similar issue was tryed on me back in the good old days by a superintendent.
It didn`t work out too well for him. It was very enjoyable watching the SOB eat crow.

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by beet1e
If you find the answer, let me know. We have all this crap in Britain too.

I wanted to note this momentus occasion.  I actually agree with something Beetle posted. Carry on.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by beet1e
If you find the answer, let me know. We have all this crap in Britain too.

Its about time you folks started flying Old Glory! Don't let them get you down though, keep hoisting that American flag up!

[eagl]

Principal ought to get fired. What a total sellout of his country.

Edit...

Turns out the school itself still flies the flag, but students can't.

I still think the Principal took the wrong action.  Some things are worth fighting for and banning the flag because it's at the center of a controversy is a slap in the face to every color bearer who's carried the American Flag into combat.  Some things need to be held up and carried into the breach.  This is NOT Mexico, it's the US. And telling an American they can't carry an American Flag for ANY reason, is not acceptable.  Try telling soldiers who carried their nation's colors in every war throughout history that because the flag draws fire they shouldn't carry it, and see what happens...  The students are 100% right.

Colorado is NOT Mexico, but that principal just gave up a little bit of what our color bearers have sacrificed for.

[Gunslinger]

I read a more indepth interview with the guy explaining his actions.  His explaionaition was perfect, he said something to the effect that the students have a right to free expression but with the recent protests about immigration reform many students have  been usuing the flags in disrespectfull and derogetory ways.

[lazs2]

And yet.... some of you still say that there is no need for vouchers or that public schools do not have an agenda and that teachers are underpaid even for being part time workers with more than full benifiets?

You can't fix it because it has no competition and you can't take the time to watchguard it.

How can no choice be good in this situation?

Imagine if 100 parents took kids and their voucher money and left that school.

lazs

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
I read a more indepth interview with the guy explaining his actions.  His explaionaition was perfect, he said something to the effect that the students have a right to free expression but with the recent protests about immigration reform many students have  been usuing the flags in disrespectfull and derogetory ways.

Then you go after those students.. harshly.

You don't ban the American Flag.

Eagl had it 100% correct.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Then you go after those students.. harshly.

You don't ban the American Flag.

Eagl had it 100% correct.

So you would let students burn the American flag?  Desicrate it?  Hang it upside down for distress?

I think this is totally appropriate.  If these kids can't behave then everyone gets punished.  Your not singleing anyone out, you arent playing favorites and you arent following an agenda.  

"When it involves the American flag and its abuse in vilifying other people, we simply will not tolerate it," Stumpf said. "They were using the symbol derisively as misguided patriotism."

Sure ban them all, schools are for learning not disruptive protestors IMHO

03/28 : Student protest

Whittier area students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools walked out of classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006. The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upside down at Montebello High. (Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)

[Hangtime]

Guns, 'corporal punishment' is BS.. always has been. You don't punish the group for the misdeeds of individuals.

You do yer damn job, you isolate the miscreants and punish THEM specifically.

Gawd, you can be such a propaganda tool sometimes, Guns. Wake the hell up and spit the freakin hook out.

You don't ban the Flag because somebody burns one or hangs it upside down or uses it as a tool to make a political point.. you shut down the individuals responsible.

Whats he gonna do next.. close the school because 10 students are protesting.. suspend the entire senior class because 15 are dickwads? It NOT the students who are following the rules' job to discipline individuals acting out or defying school policy. School code enforcement is a job for the school administrators.. that's STAFF work, not student work.

jeeebus crimmeny, guns; were is yer brain?

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Guns, 'corporal punishment' is BS.. always has been. You don't punish the group for the misdeeds of individuals.

You do yer damn job, you isolate the miscreants and punish THEM specifically.

Gawd, you can be such a propaganda tool sometimes, Guns. Wake the hell up and spit the freakin hook out.

You don't ban the Flag because somebody burns one or hangs it upside down or uses it as a tool to make a political point.. you shut down the individuals responsible.

Whats he gonna do next.. close the school because 10 students are protesting.. suspend the entire senior class because 15 are dickwads? It NOT the students who are following the rules' job to discipline individuals acting out or defying school policy. School code enforcement is a job for the school administrators.. that's STAFF work, not student work.

jeeebus crimmeny, guns; were is yer brain?

Sorry but I will allways think like a platoon Sgt.  If one of the troops is late to formations they ALL SUFFER......EIGHT COUNT BODY BUILDERS TILL I GET TIRED!  That's just the way I've been programed.  

But I do see both sides of the issue.  And I stand by my conviction that those wanting to protest an issue in public school are disrupting others ability to study and learn productivly.   Here's a really good blog article on

Mexitude

Mex-i-tude
The de facto control of social and political policy by illegal aliens.

Right on the heels of the flag ban at Skyline H.S. in Longmont, Colorado, reading this story (with video) from nearby Westminster really hurt this morning:

The immigration debate and demonstrations caused a middle school in Adams County to change their dress code.

Students at Shaw Heights Middle School are no longer allowed to wear anything that's patriotic, including camouflage pants, because they have become a political symbol for a version of patriotism.
Welcome to the beginning of Mexitude right here in the U. S. of A.

Think dhimmitude, but substitute Colorado for Kandahar, and La Raza for The Religion of Peace.

Myla Shepherd, the principal, said that tensions over the immigration issue were apparent when more than 20 students came to school wearing camouflage jackets and pants, apparently to show what they call their patriotism and American pride.

[Hangtime]

Last time I checked, high schools were education institutions. Not political debate societies. If it ain't on the board approved syllabus, it ain't supposed to be happening at school.

When students protest political points on school hours they are disrupting the learning process assigned to that institution.. those students that walk out should be suspended. Students that disrupt class.. suspended. Students that act out in defiance of school policy.. suspended.

Assinine school polices should be addressed by the PTA and the board of education. THATS the instrument that hires and fires teachers and administrators and should set policy guidelines for the school...

Ther rest of this is media-grabbing grandstanding.. politcal BS taylored to grab the dimmer minds in the public and focus attention on themselves and turn their lil grubby mexican flags and their lil grubby ungrateful dimwit brethern into a 'statement' for a media circus.

Please, don't feed the mexican circus bears.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Last time I checked, high schools were education institutions. Not political debate societies. If it ain't on the board approved syllabus, it ain't supposed to be happening at school.

When students protest political points on school hours they are disrupting the learning process assigned to that institution.. those students that walk out should be suspended. Students that disrupt class.. suspended. Students that act out in defiance of school policy.. suspended.

Assinine school polices should be addressed by the PTA and the board of education. THATS the instrument that hires and fires teachers and administrators and should set policy guidelines for the school...

Ther rest of this is media-grabbing grandstanding.. politcal BS taylored to grab the dimmer minds in the public and focus attention on themselves and turn their lil grubby mexican flags and their lil grubby ungrateful dimwit brethern into a 'statement' for a media circus.

Please, don't feed the mexican circus bears.

agreed 100% except the part about the PTA.  Many PTAs are in the pockets of the Teachers Unions.  They are nothing more than mouth pieces for the them.  Many school parents have left the PTA and formed there own group accross the country.  I wish I could find the article that I read about this.

[ASTAC]

You know whats funny...since when dooes anything kids have to say (protests and such) matter?

Banning patriotism is wrong though.