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Offline Chairboy

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« on: April 07, 2006, 09:33:55 AM »
According to http://www.spamdailynews.com/publish/ATT_forwards_all_Internet_traffic_into_NSA_says_EFF.asp AT&T is forwarding all internet traffic to the NSA.  It's supported by internal AT&T documents.

I ask again WHY some of you are so complacent about these threats to our constitutional rights?

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 09:52:46 AM »
Because some of us don't see it as a threat.

Is it a threat if they watch you walking down the street?

The internet is no different.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 09:56:20 AM »
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Because some of us don't see it as a threat.

Is it a threat if they watch you walking down the street?

The internet is no different.


Tapping your phone is no different either. Installing cameras in your home is no different either. Installing NSA's GPS tracker on your car is no different either.
There won't be enough resources, so why not to hire neightbourhood watchdogs to serve the greater good. Anyone without criminal record can apply.

btw. the link doesn't work, theres some HTML in the URL ;)

EFF: AT&T forwards all Internet traffic into NSA
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 10:06:31 AM »
boosh ist hitler, hitler ist boosh.  yada yada yada :noid

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2006, 10:10:44 AM »
If you do no wrong, you have nothing to fear, yada yada yada.

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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2006, 10:20:18 AM »
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I ask again WHY some of you are so complacent about these threats to our constitutional rights?


I'm not complacent. I'm pretty sure they've installed a bug up both our asses.. at least!

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2006, 10:46:28 AM »
lets recap, after 9-11 boosh haters said he did not do enough to prevent it, now they say he is doing too much.

instead of whining in here, why don't you e-mail boosh and tell him how you want you want the NSA run.

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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2006, 10:54:57 AM »
John9001, are you getting enough oxygen?

Have I ever said that Bush didn't do enough to prevent 9/11?  Your post seems to suggest that.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2006, 11:00:48 AM »
i'm getting pretty damn tired of the carrot and stick crap. Scare us with the boogie man.. then invade our privacy to 'protect us'.

it's an old trick. and americans just don't care anymore.

we're gonna just keep takin up the ass.. all for own good; of course.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2006, 11:13:49 AM »
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If you do no wrong, you have nothing to fear, yada yada yada.

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B.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't matter if I do no wrong!  THEY DON"T HAVE THE RIGHT!  I DO!!!

The argument about nothing to hide so don't worry?  BOGUS!

Allot of people AFTER having that jammed up the backside sideways will argue that!

Do you really think, with all the laws that are being created everyday, that you are not somehow breaking one somehow somewhere?

The Patriot Act makes it alright for them to go into your home, without your knowledge, take something, NEVER tell you they took it, AND if you call the police reporting a burglery YOU can be ARRESTED for interfearing with a federal investigation!  Don't matter that you've done nothing wrong!  The way the law reads IT DON"T MATTER WHY YOU ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.

You don't believe me?  Look it up READ IT!

A poorly written law made by good people leaves the door open for bad people to abuse it!

Sooner or later someone bad comes along.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2006, 11:28:34 AM »
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Tapping your phone is no different either. Installing cameras in your home is no different either. Installing NSA's GPS tracker on your car is no different either.
There won't be enough resources, so why not to hire neightbourhood watchdogs to serve the greater good. Anyone without criminal record can apply.

btw. the link doesn't work, theres some HTML in the URL ;)

EFF: AT&T forwards all Internet traffic into NSA


No they are not the same.

When you walk down the street you are in public therfor you have no right to privacy. The internet is the same it's just virtual. Phone calls are from one person to another therefor NOT public. Your camera in the house comment is just retarded.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2006, 11:56:57 AM »
Dang DARPA should have thought about it before they created the internet for the military to use !

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2006, 12:33:20 PM »
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I'm not complacent. I'm pretty sure they've installed a bug up both our asses.. at least!

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edited- too mean spirited. :)
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2006, 01:13:35 PM »
The Patriot Act makes it alright for them to go into your home, without your knowledge, take something, NEVER tell you they took it, AND if you call the police reporting a burglery YOU can be ARRESTED for interfearing with a federal investigation! Don't matter that you've done nothing wrong! The way the law reads IT DON"T MATTER WHY YOU ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.
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So Im supposed to think that you are being investigated for no good reason?

Or perhaps you accidently googled goat pron and are fearful of being rubbergloved in the back of some government van?

I still dont get the fear factor you have but I will be more aware of my surroundings for sure.....
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2006, 01:49:08 PM »
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Originally posted by Mighty1
No they are not the same.

When you walk down the street you are in public therfor you have no right to privacy. The internet is the same it's just virtual. Phone calls are from one person to another therefor NOT public. Your camera in the house comment is just retarded.


The network is public? Hmmm... I'm paying a private corporation for the privilege of accessing a public network. I don't think so.
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