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Offline Vudak

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« on: April 07, 2006, 05:26:16 PM »
Am I A Republican?

I’m currently a member of the GOP.  The question is, should I be?  A few brief remarks on where I stand on the issues:

War in Iraq = I support it.  Not because I think we were in any real danger, but because I feel the strong have a responsibility to protect the weak.  At the very least we got rid of a madman.  I wouldn't be against going to other oppressed regions, either.

Gay Marriage = I support it.  I don’t see why two people in love shouldn’t have the same full opportunity to the pursuit of happiness that the rest of us enjoy.  I've yet to hear a good reason not to have it.

Unequal Taxes = I’m against it.  I think everyone should have the same rate.  Any other option seems like punishing those who work hard.  Some just inherit their wealth, but what can you do. (I'm also a big believer in the need for more generous *and reliable* charity)

Evolution vs. Religion = Everyone has the right to their beliefs.  However, I feel both should be taught in schools, and both should be scrutinized.  Kids can opt to absent themselves without penalty, of course.

Abortion = I personally don’t agree with it.  However, I feel parents should have the right to choose.  Note that I said “parents” in place of “women.”  Fathers should have more of a say.

Gun Control = I have no problem with law-abiding citizens possessing firearms for sport or protection.  A man needs to have the means to defend his family, and the general public has to have a last resort option against a dramatic change in government.

“God” in Pledge. = I don’t have a problem with it.  If you don’t believe in a deity or have other reasons, feel free to omit the phrase.  

Immigration = People who enter legally have every right to expect fair treatment and a fair shot.  Those who enter illegally have every right to expect a quick escort home.

English = Each American should have the ability to converse with one another in the Lingua Franca – English.  Social programs and benefits should have a clause requiring a basic proficiency of English (or current enrollment in an English class) for benefits to be available (like in Maine, well, dunno if they reversed it).  English classes should be available free of charge to the poor.

No Child Left Behind = Against.  I feel it takes away creative liberty from teachers and standardizes everything, thus making class boring.  I don’t see how you have much hope of reaching out to a kid who hates school by making the classes even more mundane.

War on Drugs = Legalize possession of small amounts of some drugs already.  Imprison those caught with large amounts.  The government should really be producing and taxing some of the less harmful ones to fund some more social programs, like schools.

I’m not trying to start a flame war on any or all topics, and I respect that many of you will disagree with my views.  I’m not here to defend them.  All I want is your perception as to if I am a Republican, or merely a liberal in Republican clothes.  I personally consider myself a moderate.

I'm just curious what you all think...  I certainly don't fit in with some GOP members views, but agree with others.

So what am I?
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 05:28:17 PM »
An independant.:aok
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 05:35:54 PM »
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An independant.:aok


Being an independant would give up my right to vote in the primaries, I have to pick one.

Have to be honest though, this is more of a sociological study on what people from various parts of the country think my views make me.  In CT, it could well be argued I'm GOP.  But what of in other places?
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 05:36:29 PM »
Pretty close to how I see things, I consider myself a middle of the road independant.

The dems and reps both sucks serious ass.

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2006, 06:08:31 PM »
I think your like a growing number of the population who are moving away from extreme right or left and are happy somewhere in the middle.  I consider myself to be an Independent and have had no trouble voting for both Democrat and Republican presidents.  I believe in voting for the right guy, not for who some party  thinks is right.

As to what party you should belong to, I think there should be a new Moderate party.  I'm fed up with the shenanigans of both the Democrats and Republicans.
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2006, 06:13:26 PM »
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I think your like a growing number of the population who are moving away from extreme right or left and are happy somewhere in the middle.  I consider myself to be an Independent and have had no trouble voting for both Democrat and Republican presidents.  I believe in voting for the right guy, not for who some party  thinks is right.

As to what party you should belong to, I think there should be a new Moderate party.  I'm fed up with the shenanigans of both the Democrats and Republicans.


To bad we have not had a "right guy" running for the president in like 16 plus years :mad:

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2006, 06:22:45 PM »
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To bad we have not had a "right guy" running for the president in like 16 plus years :mad:


Your right.  Let me rephrase that.  Voting for the lesser of two weevil..... I mean the lesser of two evils.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2006, 07:07:37 PM »
I'm actually beginning to call myself a "Constitutionalist" when people ask.


It's just that most of the time, a constitutionalist sides with the Republican party.  The Democratic party is the absolute anti-constitution side...
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2006, 07:31:33 PM »
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Pretty close to how I see things, I consider myself a middle of the road independant.

The dems and reps both sucks serious ass.


Same here.

What we need is a true "Moderate Party"
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2006, 07:33:31 PM »
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Originally posted by ChickenHawk
I think your like a growing number of the population who are moving away from extreme right or left and are happy somewhere in the middle.  I consider myself to be an Independent and have had no trouble voting for both Democrat and Republican presidents.  I believe in voting for the right guy, not for who some party  thinks is right.

As to what party you should belong to, I think there should be a new Moderate party.  I'm fed up with the shenanigans of both the Democrats and Republicans.


guess I shoulda read down a bit more before I replied. LOL
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2006, 07:34:45 PM »
well I wouldn't wanna be a Democrat



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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2006, 07:50:41 PM »
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What we need is a true "Moderate Party"


Electing a statesmen or two instead of sleazy politicians would be a nice change.

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2006, 08:54:00 PM »
Take the Political Compass Test. Its not the most accurate due to slanted questions it asks, but it will give you a ballpark figure.

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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2006, 09:54:12 PM »
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Take the Political Compass Test. Its not the most accurate due to slanted questions it asks, but it will give you a ballpark figure.



Took the test, you're right about the slanted questions, but, OTOH, it's the most indepth one I've yet encountered.  Anyway, my results were:

Economic Left/Right: 1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18

Placing me, as people suggested and I suspected, pretty much right in the center.  Ever so slightly Republican on the economy, and ever so slightly liberal on social issues (though from the few I originally posted, I wouldn't blame someone for thinking I was more liberal on them).

I'd agree with people that there should be a true Moderate Party.  Kinda like Aces High, just seems to work out better with three countries.  I'd also say that a truly Moderate Party would probably stand a decent chance of sticking around for awhile and grabbing a fair share (heck, possibly a small majority) of Senate seats.  It seems to me that most 3rd parties throughout history in America have not been that far away from one of the major two, hence they don't stick around.  A third party that really is centered could really take off.  Pretty darn suprised it hasn't by now, to be honest.

About the only example I can think of is Teddy Roosevelt's 3rd party bid.  Had alot of ranging views and did respectably well.  Just couldn't survive without him.

Anyway, I'd just like to thank everyone for not turning this into a flame war, that's pretty remarkable :)

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2006, 10:11:36 PM »
Are you familiar with the Libertarian party?  While it doesn't address your 'vote in the primaries' concern, it might be worhtwhile to familiarize yourself with the platform.  

I vote the issue and the person, not just a straight party line, but I've found that the Libertarian candidate is most likely to represent my views on issues regarding small government, the role of the government in personal life (minimal, please), etc etc.
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