Author Topic: Gay Marriage thread (Read 5448 times)

Vudak · « **Reply #90 on:** April 09, 2006, 06:44:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger

Traditional roles arent allways a bad thing.....especially when they've worked for thousands of years.

You try telling that to some woman from my neck of the woods. You think forgetting her birthday was something?

Trust me, not fun, not fun at all lol

Gunslinger · « **Reply #91 on:** April 09, 2006, 08:37:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Vudak
You try telling that to some woman from my neck of the woods. You think forgetting her birthday was something?

Trust me, not fun, not fun at all lol

Go tell her to burn her bra on her own time and cook you some pie!

storch · « **Reply #92 on:** April 09, 2006, 10:39:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Vudak
You try telling that to some woman from my neck of the woods. You think forgetting her birthday was something?

Trust me, not fun, not fun at all lol

that's because you have failed in your training. I have mine trained not expect anything on any supposedly significant date. she is aware that christmas, valentine's day, birthdays, mother's day etc. were created by New York haberdashers and as such should be eschewed. when ever I run across a good deal, be it diamonds gold or automobiles she receives a gift. the other thing is to always step up to your responsibilities to defend and provide for her and the offspring, at the end of the day that's our raison de etre and our only justification for being here.

BluKitty · « **Reply #93 on:** April 10, 2006, 04:04:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger opposite gender

Define it for me .... and don't leave anyone out.

lazs2 · « **Reply #94 on:** April 10, 2006, 08:54:22 AM »

blu and vudak... equal does not mean that everyone get't to be quarterback or.... even pays the same amount of taxes.

the law is that any two people can get married so long as.... as a bunch of requirements are met.... they can't allready be married... they both have to be human... they can't be immediate relatives... they can't be below a certain age... and....

They have to be of the oppossite sex. these are all rules that everyone has to live by if they want to participate in marriage... You choose one of the rules and say it is unfair...

There are many who think one or the other rules are not fair to them.

Tough....those are the rules. If society as a whole want's some of the rules changed then it will.... being incestuous and not being able to be married does not mean that your civil rights are being violated any more than being gay and not being allowed to marry does.

and blu.... other than adding hysteria... what does your transexual example have to do with anything?

lazs

Chairboy · « **Reply #95 on:** April 10, 2006, 09:20:41 AM »

Lazs, incest directly creates things like retardation as a result of things like recessive genes coming to the front, XXY pondings, etc. It's genuinely harmful to the child, and thus directly negatively affects others.

Is there an equivalent to homosexual marriages with which I'm unfamiliar?

BTW, you use the example of "those are the rules, tough". I'll note that until partway into the 20th century, women couldn't vote. Those were the rules too. Using the existance of a rule as rationale for the correctness of the rule is a circular argument.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #96 on:** April 10, 2006, 10:00:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy

BTW, you use the example of "those are the rules, tough". I'll note that until partway into the 20th century, women couldn't vote.

Yea, and just look at the mistake we made with that.

deSelys · « **Reply #97 on:** April 10, 2006, 10:42:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
...I'll note that until partway into the 20th century, women couldn't vote. Those were the rules too...

Ahem...this is not what will change Lazs's mind, trust me!

TexMurphy · « **Reply #98 on:** April 10, 2006, 10:57:19 AM »

You know what I find the most interesting about this....

Isnt USA based on the fact that State and Church should be kept separate?

Gay marriage isnt about "The christian church allowing gay coules to get married" its about "Gay couples having equal rights in sociaty as any other human beeing". Its about inheritance laws, financial laws ect.

Should gay couples have equal rights in society as any other couples? Definatly.

Should gay couples have the right to be wed in any church? Not necessary thats up to each church to decide.

But then again church and state beeing kept separate is just another brilliant example of american double standars.

Tex.

Ripper29 · « **Reply #99 on:** April 10, 2006, 11:08:05 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
blu and vudak... equal does not mean that everyone get't to be quarterback or.... even pays the same amount of taxes.

the law is that any two people can get married so long as.... as a bunch of requirements are met.... they can't allready be married... they both have to be human... they can't be immediate relatives... they can't be below a certain age... and....

They have to be of the oppossite sex. these are all rules that everyone has to live by if they want to participate in marriage... You choose one of the rules and say it is unfair...

There are many who think one or the other rules are not fair to them.

Tough....those are the rules. If society as a whole want's some of the rules changed then it will.... being incestuous and not being able to be married does not mean that your civil rights are being violated any more than being gay and not being allowed to marry does.

and blu.... other than adding hysteria... what does your transexual example have to do with anything?

lazs

Rules are rules....like helmet laws

lazs2 · « **Reply #100 on:** April 10, 2006, 02:49:44 PM »

chair... incest in marriage would be legal then if one of the parties were sterile?

Nope... I am no fan of rules but there you have it. Rules that do not violate human rights are made by the population and it's culture all the time.

As for women not being able to vote? we would be in a hell of a lot better shape if they had never been able to.

helmet laws? Not my call... i disobey them and seatbelt laws every chance I get.

gay marriage? they don't want to simply call themselves married.... it is other benifiets that they want... let's be honest here.

marriage is for couples of the oppossite sex... if gays want to couple up that is fine but get their own term for it and their own laws about it so far as I am concerned.

lazs

TexMurphy · « **Reply #101 on:** April 10, 2006, 04:17:03 PM »

lazs

Why shouldnt a gay person have the same rights in society as you do?

Its exactly the same thing as saying blacks, asians, you name the race shouldnt have same rights in society...

Its exactly the same thing as saying women shouldnt have the same rights in society as men...

Its exactly the same thing as saying muslims, jews, budhists, hindus shouldnt have the same rights in society as christians....

Tex

Jackal1 · « **Reply #102 on:** April 10, 2006, 04:51:36 PM »

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Originally posted by TexMurphy
lazs

Why shouldnt a gay person have the same rights in society as you do?

They have the same rights in society as everyone else. In this case, they have the same right to marry anyone of the opposite gender, just like everyone else.

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Its exactly the same thing as saying blacks, asians, you name the race shouldnt have same rights in society...

Well at least someone came outright and said it instead of circling the house three or four times.
It has nothing to do with a race. Being gay is not a race of people. They have the same rights as everyone else.

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Its exactly the same thing as saying muslims, jews, budhists, hindus shouldnt have the same rights in society as christians....

Being gay is not a religion.

TexMurphy · « **Reply #103 on:** April 10, 2006, 05:29:48 PM »

Is it just me who is seeing the double standars here?

some people here say that sexuality is choise, well in that case its exactly the same as religion... religion is a choise.. yet its ok to strip gay people of their social rights while its not ok to do so for people based on religion...

some people here say that sexuality isnt by choise but by nature, well in that case its exactly the same thing as gender and/or race... gender/race is by nature.. yet its ok to strip gay people of their social rights while its not ok to do so for people based on their gender and/or race...

Got to love double standars...

Tex

Curval · « **Reply #104 on:** April 10, 2006, 06:09:51 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
As for women not being able to vote? we would be in a hell of a lot better shape if they had never been able to.

What a crock. Just some "tough-guy" biker mentality.

Author Topic: Gay Marriage thread (Read 5448 times)

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