CT Buffs

[Boxboy]

If the CT buffs are ANYTHING like the Buffs in the MA I doubt I will be playing long.

I just tried to attack a box of 17's at 27,000 feet I was co alt in a Dora I tried EVERY angle of attack and the 17's were SOOO fast and SOOO accurate from EVERY angle that finally on high 45 degree attack he shot off my elevators and vert stab with his WAIST guns.

As far as I am concerned after this experiment all the arguing about bullet travel etc is just plain bunk....the bomber gun lethality is higher than regular .50 cals period and EVERYONE knows it.

[B@tfinkV]

its the concentraion of fire and the deadly accuracy of unmanned gunns that causes the trouble for less experienced buff killers.


honestly if i have more than 2k alt over a box of buffs of any make, i will put down my house in betting i will destroy 2  out of 3 while taking no hits.





a 50cal is a 50cal in this game, im pretty sure all hit the same.

[RTSigma]

Just like in WW2, single plane attacks on masses of boxed bombers was nearly suicide. Going in from 12 o clock offered the best percentage to kill the pilots.

Just remember, just because you're going up against a bomber group, does not mean you're going to win.

[LYNX]

Originally posted by Boxboy
If the CT buffs are ANYTHING like the Buffs in the MA I doubt I will be playing long.

I just tried to attack a box of 17's at 27,000 feet I was co alt  

1st) Mistake Co Alt
2nd) Mistake you had a couple of goes at them
3rd) Mistake ..no patience to alt over the formation.

TIP ........ Always dive on bombers.  Get nasty with it go for the head shot lol but pass underneath extend forward loop over and repeat

[hubsonfire]

Bat speaks the truth. Level bombers at alt are the best weapons platform in the game.

[mars01]

9 out of 10 times I don't have a problem with Buffs, stay high dive down fast hit em where it kills em.  If you pick em apart piece by piece you are going to die.

[SAS_KID]

Originally posted by Boxboy
If the CT buffs are ANYTHING like the Buffs in the MA I doubt I will be playing long.

I just tried to attack a box of 17's at 27,000 feet I was co alt.

Worst thing you could have done


 

Originally posted by Boxboy
As far as I am concerned after this experiment all the arguing about bullet travel etc is just plain bunk....the bomber gun lethality is higher than regular .50 cals period and EVERYONE knows it.

dude think about it at least 12 50 cals firing hundreds of shots a second ur guna die weeeeetard.

[Boxboy]

Originally posted by SAS_KID
Worst thing you could have done


 
 

dude think about it at least 12 50 cals firing hundreds of shots a second ur guna die weeeeetard.

Well Dud if you had read the post you would see that I tried every attack I could WITHOUT being dead six OR allowing all the guns to concentrate

WHICH dud is my point he DIDN't hit me with thousands of rounds he hit me with a FEW rounds which did more damage than a 20mm cannon

[Flayed1]

I would say that attacking 3 B-17's is a bad idea as a single plane a 27K.
  The B-17 reaches 300mph at 30K so you were almost at it's top speed and at 27K I would say your plane would be handling like a dead fish, just catching them and being sluggish. While the bombers are at alt and cruising waiting for you to make a pass.    

 At the very least I would get a 152, spit-14, P51 or P38 up to chase them down and even then it would not be the best thing to do alone..

[Furball]

i dont know if it has been changed, but i think a big part of it is lack of dispersion on bomber guns

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Boxboy
Well Dud if you had read the post you would see that I tried every attack I could WITHOUT being dead six OR allowing all the guns to concentrate

WHICH dud is my point he DIDN't hit me with thousands of rounds he hit me with a FEW rounds which did more damage than a 20mm cannon

Why drag me into this???

[navajoboy]

Originally posted by Boxboy
Well Dud if you had read the post you would see that I tried every attack I could WITHOUT being dead six OR allowing all the guns to concentrate

WHICH dud is my point he DIDN't hit me with thousands of rounds he hit me with a FEW rounds which did more damage than a 20mm cannon

Originally posted by SuperDud
Why drag me into this???

your like toliet paper dud.. you get dragged into alot of things....

[Boxboy]

Originally posted by Flayed1
I would say that attacking 3 B-17's is a bad idea as a single plane a 27K.
  The B-17 reaches 300mph at 30K so you were almost at it's top speed and at 27K I would say your plane would be handling like a dead fish, just catching them and being sluggish. While the bombers are at alt and cruising waiting for you to make a pass.    

 At the very least I would get a 152, spit-14, P51 or P38 up to chase them down and even then it would not be the best thing to do alone..

Give me a break the bombers reach max speed at 2 feet, they are like jets screaming across the sky.  I see a dot screaming along soon I see a box of bombers.

As for attacking alone you are right, when HT implemented the "box" he needed to tone down the "otto gunners" abit but this is not the case as far as I can see, and in CT you have LOTS of AI gunners if what I read is correct and man I can't see how ANY fighter formation will be able to attack that.

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by Boxboy
man I can't see how ANY fighter formation will be able to attack that.

There will, supposedly, be a lot more planes involved, and the shear numbers of attacking fighters will likely be the saving grace for the LW.

But yeah, formations in CT would suck mightily. Hope they take a slightly more realistic (or at least different) approach in that regard.

[Booz]

Originally posted by Boxboy
If the CT buffs are ANYTHING like the Buffs in the MA I doubt I will be playing long.

I just tried to attack a box of 17's at 27,000 feet I was co alt in a Dora I tried EVERY angle of attack and the 17's were SOOO fast and SOOO accurate from EVERY angle that finally on high 45 degree attack he shot off my elevators and vert stab with his WAIST guns.

As far as I am concerned after this experiment all the arguing about bullet travel etc is just plain bunk....the bomber gun lethality is higher than regular .50 cals period and EVERYONE knows it.

 You might not cut it in CT